this post was submitted on 04 Oct 2023
95 points (99.0% liked)
Mildly Interesting
17436 readers
29 users here now
This is for strictly mildly interesting material. If it's too interesting, it doesn't belong. If it's not interesting, it doesn't belong.
This is obviously an objective criteria, so the mods are always right. Or maybe mildly right? Ahh.. what do we know?
Just post some stuff and don't spam.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
To expand on this, in linguistics, when you notice a similarity between two words, there are three main possibilities.
The first two are fun because they're evidence of some kind of historical connection, which can sometimes stretch back further than the historical record. Sanskrit in India having a lot of similarities to Greek and Latin is the classical example there (and controversial if you're a Hindu nationalist). Coincidence can be disappointing when you think you've discovered some exciting historical connection, but the dangerous bias that has to be kept in mind is that generally, if you're looking for something, you will find it.
You forgot universals, words that wind up with a common derivation in a lot of languages. For example, "Mama" is a common word for mother in completely unrelated languages, because it's derived from babies frequently making mmm sounds first.
Also animal names derived from the sounds said animals make IIRC Crow is an example of this
I kinda touched on that under coincidence, which is admittedly stretching it a bit, but I also think "universals" is a bit of an overly strong name for the phenomenon.
But it is true that there are some underlying elements of human biology and psychology that can cause some interesting effects as well, though I think people have a tendency to exaggerate them.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bouba/kiki_effect
This is a pretty classic example of it.
I love the analysis done by zompist, here: https://www.zompist.com/chance.htm
In summary, having a few purely coincidental similar words is extremely likely. In fact, if there were no such similarities that would be weirder, from a mathematical perspective… especially (but not necessarily) if you stretch what might be considered a “similar meaning”, which people often do.