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I was wondering how the pre-reddit lemmy members feel about the influx of ex-reddit. Have things got worst or better? Is there any lemmy etiquette that we are missing?

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[โ€“] DovahFiST@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I should've known it was the beginning of the end of my time on reddit when I commented "well if people are gonna start flying Russian flags on their trucks here in the USA I'll be keeping a baseball bat in the trunk of my car" shortly after the invasion of Ukraine began - specifically non-violent, and if they'd have been able to read my mind, the intent was so I could smash the windows out of their truck not actually beat the shit out of them, and I received a 3-day ban from the whole site for "advocating violence" or whatever the fuck it was called. I took a looooong break from reddit after that as I was honestly pretty disgusted an admin essentially supported Russia by banning me for my benign comment, but found myself there again.

Without RIF I'm definitely never going back.

Edit: I find it concerning that I posted this within the Lemmy.ml community and I'm seeing downvotes and people promoting false equivalencies in reply; I was told lemmy.ml supported Russia but I didn't believe it as I was shown no proof, and I hand-waved away that warning - now I'm concerned.

[โ€“] Schooner@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Gonna say that comment sounds very nationalistic and xenophobic to me. Would I ban you for it? No. But you'd definitely get a warning if I was the mod.

Unless you're doing the same thing for anyone flying the US flag, that's just standard hypocrisy.

I don't think Lemmy supports Russia. It's very anti-imperialism in general, which is a good thing! But, Americans advocating for violence exclusively against other imperialist symbols just smacks of double standards, ya know?

[โ€“] mr_jp@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Let's flip the argument around. Lets say i wrote:

'if people started flying rainbow flags on their cars in my country , I'll keep a baseball bat in my car'

Do you think i deserve to be perma banned for 'advocating violence'?

[โ€“] maiskanzler@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah I gotta say personally both sentences sound violent to me. They can absolutely be understood in both a violent and a window-smashing way, but the wording is so on the line that I too wouldn't want to see it in a community.

The meaning of what we say or write is not purely what is meant by the speaker/writer but also in large part what the audience or the person we speak to hears and understands. As the person saying something, we always have to be aware of how it may be understood or misunderstood. We all have different contexts, experiences and ways of communicating. All we can do is be as specific as possible to remove any uncertainty. Vague wording is how dog-whistling operates.

Maybe a better way of wording it would have been:

"if people start flying (...) flags on their cars in my country, they better watch out for their windows 'cause I'll be keeping a baseball bat in my car"

[โ€“] DovahFiST@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

No, in my opinion that follows the rules, it's not inherently violent. I think the implication is gross, and would rightfully be downvoted, but it doesn't break any rules. It's a bit of a false equivalency though considering LGBTQ+ people weren't actively killing thousands of civilians, destroying homes, and raping thousands of women, like the Russian government was orchestrating at the time (and still is from my understanding, it's just not interesting enough for the fucked 24 hours news cycle any more).

[โ€“] mr_jp@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Jesus Christ, I'm not a tankie ๐Ÿ˜„

I'm a 'reddit is too ban friendly' guy.

I also mentioned in another comment that the false equivalency example might not have been too great. Hope you see where I'm coming from.