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Russia wanted to conquer Ukraine in just 2 days — it now says the war will last at least 3 years (www.businessinsider.com)

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Shoigu added that Russia could achieve its military goals with "consistent implementation of the measures in the action until 2025."

Since Russia's invasion of Ukraine, Russian President Vladimir Putin and allies like Shoigu have repeatedly stressed the need to keep Ukraine inside Russia's sphere of influence, and to defeat what they describe as Ukraine's "Nazi regime".

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[–] fiat_lux@kbin.social 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I've never understood why people think wars will be short.

Number of global conflicts 'ended' since 2000 : 26.
List of those that lasted under 10 years:

Russo-Georgian War (11 days)
Wagner Uprising (1 day)

Number of ongoing conflicts: 59
List of those which are under 10 years old:

Russo-Ukrainian War (9 years, 7 months and 1 week)
Yemeni Civil War (9 years, 1 week and 4 days)

Numbers derived from this likely incorrect Wikipedia list of conflicts, but there's no way anyone truly agrees on the list details for something like this anyway. The overall point is, anyone advocating for War is advocating for a 10 years minimum commitment to destruction. And that's before considering environmental effects, long-term trauma, etc. Never trust anyone who says that any war will not last a very long time because of military prowess.

[–] flying_monkies@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Guess it depends on the definition of "lasts". With Iraq, Coalition forces rolled through the third largest military in under two months.

Germany need 35 days to take Poland and six weeks for Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxembourg and France in WWII.

Russia figured they were on par with other modern militaries for their special smoothbrain operation. Why wouldn't it be fast? 🙄

[–] fiat_lux@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I recall the internet claims that Afghanistan would be a few weeks, and also Iraq v2 - because of the US' military superiority. It doesn't really matter whose military it is in whatever coalition, or how much funding they get. It's all just long-term destruction.

[–] flying_monkies@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Don't recall anyone saying it would be a few weeks. Don't doubt some people said it would only be a few weeks, just don't remember it.

From the start of the invasion, it was two months one week and three days to topple the Taliban government.

Unfortunately, then next 19 years were apparently a waste since the regime that replaced the Taliban didn't actually want to fight for themselves.