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[–] DreamerOfImprobableDreams@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The counter offensive isn't into Russia, it's them trying to get back their territory which was occupied last February. Where a lot of Ukrainians currently have family members, and where we know for a fact torture of dissenters and kidnapping of children is taking place.

IIRC almost all polls show strong support from Ukrainians to take all their land back.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's also to get back their territory which was occupied in 2014. I think XymerianMonk is subtly implying that that territory is "Russian" now, which is pretty disgusting if so. Russia doesn't get to seize and annex territory from its neighbours and then cry about being "invaded" when those neighbours try to take it back.

[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] m532@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago
[–] sovietsnake@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Do you realise whataboutism is not an argument. Because when you use it as one you are basically falling under the same trap. You are telling me what about santa ana, care for ukraine. Who cares about non white people, though, right?