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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/5419055

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[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I've heard absolute loads of homophobic BS from Christians and especially anti-trans stuff lately, so fuck off with the singling out Islam bigotry. All religious people are capable of hate, as much as they claim to be above it all (at least the ones dumb enough to openly express hate).

[–] electrogamerman@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I agree with you that all religions are shit, but I think it's important and we should be able to point out when a specific religion is fucking us up.

In Berlin there has been a lot of homophobic attacks coming from the muslim community, especially in that area where there are a lot of them.

Maybe you were unware of that, but I think its very very likely that the attackers were muslims.

That doesn't mean that Christianity is better, nor any other religion, but do we really need to be pointing out the homophobia in the muslim religion and ALWAYS followed by and Christianity is also shitty? There are posts criticizing the homophobic and transphobic acts that Christians have been doing lately too.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Okay but give me one theocratic Christian country that openly kills people for being gay. We're not going to abolish bigotry in the world without admitting that the Middle East and Islam is especially fucked up when it comes to LGBT rights

[–] koomapotilas@suppo.fi 4 points 1 year ago

In Berlin it's basically given the perpetrators were Muslims.

[–] neeeeDanke@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yes but if you read the article linked in the reddit theread anouther comment mentioned this was in Berlin-Neukölln, which is predominantly muslim and known to have issues with (esp. young men/boys) radicals opposing queer people.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, but if you read my message again, it's responding to someone attempting to claim Islam is worse. It is not.

I seriously hope the US doesn't have to go ALL the way down the road of fascism to prove to the world that Christians are just as bigoted and stupid. Just because our news refuses to label so many hate crimes and acts of violence as bigoted hate crimes does not absolve non-Islam religions.

[–] neeeeDanke@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

I totally agree that christians (or any religion/religion-like structure) can be and in the case of Christianity often is just as bad.

it's responding to someone claiming islam is worse that's not how I read the comment. I read it as in this case it would make sense to assume the attackers were muslims. My response was intended to say that in this exact case that would probably be a reasonable assumption.

I want to make it clear that I do not think that it is generally significantly more likely for the islam faith to cause queerphobia than it would be for any other one. It is just that in this particular region (Berlin-Neukölln) and demographic (young men) that would be the most likely perputrators.