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Today we announce that we have completely removed all traces of disks being used by our VPN infrastructure!

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[–] TrustingZebra@lemmy.one 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Is it noticeably faster than Surfshark for you?

[–] candle_lighter@lemmy.ml 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I haven't noticed a difference but this company is significantly more trust worthy IMO

[–] TrustingZebra@lemmy.one 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Funny thing is I started using Surfshark just before they started all the YouTube sponsorships. Them doing so many sponsorships actually made me trust them less somehow, if that makes sense.

Mullvad "appears" to be more trustworthy but maybe they are just better at marketing that image. They still cost twice as much as Surfshark.

[–] candle_lighter@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 year ago

The best piece of marketing Mullvad ever got was when the Swedish police raided them and Mullvad literally had zero data to turn over to them.

[–] LucidNightmare@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Usually when a company throws buckoos of money into advertisements, that’s where the money that could’ve been spent on a better product went. I’ve found products that were advertised so heavily, almost always have dog shit quality.

[–] PeachMan@lemmy.one 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You don't use Mullvad for their performance, you use them for their insanely paranoid security and privacy practices.

And for the record, I was never impressed with Surfshark speeds. I dropped them when they bundled a virus scanner into their VPN client, that's sketchy as hell. I don't want my VPN provider scanning my files.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Mullvad has excellent performance though. I got nearly gigabit, I, unfortunately, had to switch when they removed port forwarding.

[–] TrustingZebra@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes I agree Surfshark has done some weird things. I find it weird that it's actually the same company now as NordVPN, but they don't make it clear.

Regarding performance, Surfshark is decent speed but still slower than not using a VPN. The more annoying thing is that I get a lot more captchas when using Surfshark. I think these issues are common for all VPNs, though I haven't tried Mullvad yet (I will when my Surfshark subscription ends).

[–] PeachMan@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah a lot of these little VPN companies are getting bought up by larger companies with unknown investors, it's kinda worrying. There's one company that owns ExpressVPN, PIA, and CyberGhost now: https://www.kape.com/our-brands/

Kape Technologies (previously named CrossRider) has a pretty sketchy history of making adware: https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2015/06/09/from-israel-unit-8200-to-ad-men/?sh=7c46d70e26e2

[–] Onii-Chan@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago

I never had any real issues with speed using Surfshark, the reason I made the switch was largely about trust. As another user said, as soon as I saw Surfshark start their YouTube advertising spree, and start to bloat their client with unnecessary features, I started looking for alternatives.

I'm iffy about any VPN company that uses YouTuber marketing as it is, and while my threat model isn't overly paranoid, I believe the VPN company someone chooses to use should have paranoid business practices. After I saw the news on Mullvad's raid, the authorities subsequently finding nothing, and the fact that a user's account is merely a string of numbers, I decided it was the VPN for me.

[–] lemmyingly@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mullvad compared to PIA, Google annoys me less with recaptures. I know it doesn't answer your question but thought I'd throw my 2 cents in since PIA was quite a popular choice with their YouTube sponsor slots and cheap prices

[–] TrustingZebra@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago

It's good to hear you get less captchas with Mullvad. At least for me, when using Surfshark + Private Browsing, I am basically guaranteed to get a ton of captchas on any Google searches.