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[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Forever wars are great for business. Fucking ghouls.

[–] ahornsirup@artemis.camp 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

If only there was a country that could easily end the war by simply withdrawing back behind its borders...

But do keep cheering for a fascist dictator -- everything to oppose evil America, right? No matter how many innocents die.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Sometimes it's hard to go after the killer when the calls are coming from within the house

[–] ned4cyb@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are other perspectives on this matter that disagree with USA narrative you just repeated. I would go as far as to say that it is US propaganda. To your surprise, most of the world does not agree with what you are describing.

[–] ahornsirup@artemis.camp 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Then the rest of the world ought to read Putin's own essay on what he thinks of Ukraine, I can't be bothered to link it right now but it's on the Kremlin's official website if you want to read it yourself. This invasion is a blatant, imperialist landgrab.

[–] ned4cyb@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is just your interpretation of it, being subjected to US propaganda. I repeat, most of the wolrd does not share this opinion

[–] ahornsirup@artemis.camp 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's not open to interpretation, it's plain as fucking day. Do you even bother reading Russian media? Because they openly admitted to it.

[–] ned4cyb@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

In good faith that you are willing to be further educated, here is a great analysis from 7 years ago with historic basis and up to the point, predicting precisely the events that started in 2022 by a great American scholar

[–] ned4cyb@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

A Diplomatic event with decades of history and you believe that one day the evil Putin wanted to take land? This is a joke. As for critique from Russian media, the same exists for Ukrainian critics (if they have not been imprisoned and tortured or ousted by the Nazi regime), as well as US media covering the other side of the coin. Please study some history, it is very important

[–] zephyreks@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Russia was very clear what their red lines were, even back in like 2009. NATO kept pushing the issue. Then, by their own admission, teams like the US 4th PsyOps orchestrated Euromaidan to overthrow the Ukrainian government. Ukraine might be mostly innocent here, but neither Russia nor NATO are.

[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is just US exceptionalism in another form. The US didn't organize Euromaidan, Yanukovych wanted to become a dictator so he passed a bunch of laws to do so but people protested and he put the protestors down, causing enough protests to make him flee.

Stop assuming everything happening in the world is done by the US, your country is not that important.

[–] zephyreks@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Well,, admittedly the US 4th PsyOps could be lying in their promotional materials, but the track record of US support for regime changes has been pretty exceptional. Basically, past performance implies future performance.

[–] DianaHasWings@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I agree! The Russians are ghouls for continuing this horrid bloodbath. They should withdraw to the internationally recognised border immediately.