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TAIPEI, Taiwan (AP) -- China's military sent 103 warplanes toward Taiwan in a 24-hour period in what the island's defense ministry said Monday was a daily record in recent times.

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[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

You cherry picked data from the 2020 census and repeated a narrative around those isolated facts that fits the Western narrative. It's not my fault you can't see through the bullshit.

Did you want me to just cite the entire census? Of course I picked data that supported my argument, that's how debate works..... now it is your job to rebuttal my argument, which isnt just throwing ad hominems btw.

you don't know the answer to this question, then you don't really have any business talking about this. Ignorance is not a position that must be respected.

Lol, you only specified actions in South East Asia. It's of my opinion that there are plenty of actions commuted by china in South East Asia that could be interpreted as negative.

In essence, you can't tell the difference between Vietnam and Tibet because your analysis is based purely on vibes and moralizing.

Lol, Tibet is not in South East Asia my dude.

Suffice to say, Han chauvinism regarding Vietnam was based

Ahh, okay I was right. You were just being sassy.

Hitler wrote in Mein Kampf that one of his goals was to bring the American system of apartheid and dominance to the Slavs. It would not be more accurate to say the 3rd Reich was emulating Italy. The 3rd Reich openly studied Jim Crow, American eugenics, frontier and border town strategies, the Indian reservation system, etc. The 3rd Reich literally grew from the Western European project that the USA perfected and helmed. When the 3rd Reich fell, the movement was absorbed back into the USA where it continued to develop.

Again, I'm not defending America? I agree that he studied and utilized American system of oppression, but the way he organized his economy and structural hierarchy was more influenced by the actions of mousselines Italian fascism.

Which again is more vibes than anything else. If you actually read Chinese party publications, 5-year plans, and everything else they publish, you would see that nothing could be further from the truth. China is not emulating the US, they are arranging their economic policies to ensnare Western bourgeoisie

And a lot of people seem to think that utilizing capitalism to destroy capitalism is like trying to put out a house fire by drowning it in gasoline. I think there are some pretty valid criticism laid out in from victory to defeat by Pao-yu Ching.

There's a lot to understand from that. First, when China pushes the USA, UK, and Japan out of their space, it's not imperialism, it's anti-imperialism.

Lol, that implies that they have some sort of manifest destiny over territories they've never historically controlled..... Tibet is their space? You just reiterated yourself without actually explaining how they justified their expansion. That's unless you are claiming they preemptively expanded their territory to deny possible future western intent.

China doesn't want to be destroyed like the West is being destroyed

Again, you are utilizing an unsubstantiated definition of imperialism that requires the unnecessary prerequisite of a specified type of capitalist intent.

Stop trying to figure out how to be morally superior by engaging in criticism of the fantasy China that you have not investigated at all and start trying to develop criticism of China by studying it thoroughly and with intellectual honesty.

My dude, just because we came to different conclusions doesn't mean I haven't investigated it at all. I could make the same dramatic claims about the willfull ignorance of obvious human rights violations committed against indigenous populations, but of course it would be justified as Western propaganda.

There are plenty of things to criticize China for from a Marxist perspective. You haven't found a single one of those things.

And they would be? You keep making large sweeping claims and then just using a series of logical fallacies to justify them. You haven't really expanded on your claims, You've just regurgitated party platitudes. It's like I'm criticizing US foreign policy and you keep utilizing memos from the state department to justify them. The whole point is I don't believe the state department to be a dependable narrator.

Have a great one, but I don't really feel like breaking down anymore logical fallacies. Nor do I really feel like explaining the historic racial schisms of the east to white people who have never been to the continent. But as a fun experiment, next time you meet a Han from mainland China, ask their opinions about Manchu people. It should be a fun learning experience!