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Donald Trump will “never” support Putin, says Volodymyr Zelensky (www.economist.com)

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"There is no way of predicting how the millions of Ukrainian refugees in European countries would react to their country being abandoned. Ukrainians have generally “behaved well” and are “very grateful” to those who sheltered them. They will not forget that generosity. But it would not be a “good story” for Europe if it were to “drive these people into a corner”."

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[–] Blursty@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

By everyone who believes in reality. The allegations were all dropped when they couldn't find any evidence to support them. It was just something the Hillary campaign group invented.

https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/russiagate-elections-interference/

[–] TokenBoomer@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks. The Nation article concerns the Russian disinformation campaign in 2016. Russia’s involvement was always going to be difficult to calculate. It says nothing about Trump and his campaign’s ties and business dealings with Russian officials. You can say Russiagate didn’t happen all you want, but it doesn’t change the facts. Paul Manaforte owed money to Oleg Deripaksa. Manaforte admitted to giving voter polling data to Kilimnik. Michael Cohen pled guilty to lying about Trump Moscow tower. Russians](url) tried to hack state election systems.

Are you saying these things didn’t happen in our reality? Clinton’s campaign may have exaggerated the effectiveness of Russian interference. The Steele Dossier is an example of that. But to say there was no interference and that Trump and his team had no connections is pure disinformation.

[–] Blursty@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But to say there was no interference and that Trump and his team had no connections is pure disinformation.

Do you have anything at all to back that up? What interference was there? Your links above are about random business dealings. If you believe there was interference you must have some reason to?

[–] TokenBoomer@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trump. Campaign. Met with Russians. Interference. You think they met for coffee?

[–] Blursty@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So your entire reason for believing in this conspiracy theory is that someone met with Russians. The rest you've daydreamed up.

Isn't there enough shit on Trump without having to make stuff up?

[–] TokenBoomer@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You seem a little too invested in disproving a “conspiracy theory.” Why?

[–] Blursty@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

It's used to foster more American warmongering.