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From the guy's own mouth.

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[–] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Actually he also said (in the link):

“The background was that President Putin declared in the autumn of 2021, and actually sent a draft treaty that they wanted NATO to sign, to promise no more NATO enlargement. That was what he sent us. And was a pre-condition for not invade Ukraine. Of course we didn’t sign that.”

[–] sxan@midwest.social 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"If you don't promise to stop making new friends, I'm going to kill another one."

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

NATO is not a friend or friendly force, it is one of the great evils of our time, anyone arguing otherwise just wants to bomb third world countries.

Ask the citizens of Libya and Iraq how defensive and friendly NATO is.

The process of "joining NATO" is not anything equivalent to making friends, any country joining NATO essentially becomes a vassal for US interests. There's a reason why Sweden and Finland held out for so long.

[–] edge@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

There's a reason why Sweden and Finland held out for so long.

And that they're doing it with no say from the people.

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago (13 children)

"If you invite your serial killer gun nut friend to build a tree stand on your property pointed at my house, we're going to have problems"

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[–] Syldon@feddit.uk 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some Presidents should stick to declaring only things they have control over.

[–] OrnluWolfjarl@lemmygrad.ml 43 points 1 year ago (56 children)

Some NATO officials should stick to avoiding nuclear holocaust over some theoretical pissing contest.

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[–] nicman24@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

what about 2014

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