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wait till you understand what 'tax' is
Oh, so you just want the state to be your landlord? Enjoy your cinderblock gulag.
I can vote for who runs the state, I can't vote for my landlord.
these pro-landlord tankies don't believe in democracy smdh
You can rent from someone else. That’s actually easier than moving cities, states, or countries.
Can I rent from someone who isn't a capitalist who's charging me way more than the cost of upkeep for the property to make a profit? Also even if we have a housing market wouldn't the option to live in public housing be good for less well off people to help drive down rents on the private housing market?
If you want to argue that the government should develop low cost housing, that’s an interesting discussion. In general, “supply” regardless of how it’s created, is the answer to high housing prices. I do fear that you’ll be dissatisfied with the quality of that government housing.
No it's not. That's why you have houses and apartments for hypothetical millionaires going empty because no one can actually afford them. As long as homes and real estate have speculative value there is no guarantee that "supply" will positively affect prices or affect them enough to provide housing for everyone.
The simple fact that there are more empty homes and apartments than there are homeless people disproves your premise.
IDK Austria and a few other Euro nations seem to be pulling it off okay.
hmmmm
hmmm
Socialism is...... When you own your own home??
spoiler
Yes, Socialism has home ownership.
The only thing that is state affiliated more than in Capitalism is the mean of production (businesses) being owned by the state. Everything else is still owned by individuals.
You are thinking of Communism.
it's a play on "communism means no toothbrush*
You'd also be able to own your own home under communism, to be clear.
A private domicile is not private property, so yes even under communism people will own thier own homes.
Western countries already provide resources for our less fortunate friends and neighbors. But we don’t use the police power of the state to force those resources on people that don’t want them. We also don’t round them up and force them to fight for our Moscovi overlords that are just a itsy-bitsy more equal than the rest of us. Hmmmm
In the west all of your children have the freedom to grow up as homeless crack heads living in tent cities, how inspiring.
😂🤣😂
Median US Household Income - $70,784
Median Moscovi Household Income -$27,634
Well shit, little Yuri, looks like a good deal for us.
now compare the amount of homeless people in both, also you linked the same article twice
btw now you have edited your article remind me, is russia a socilaist country or a neo-liberal one, like the USA?
you have linked me info of Russian from 2010-present, in what way am I remotely suggesting a capitalist, neo-liberal country is what im adovcating for?
Homeless in the US - 0.2% of the population.
Homeless in Russia - 3.5% of the population.
Is this going the way you thought it would?
Russia has a capitalist, pro-landlord economy, just like the US...
Where did I use modern day capitalist russia to prove my point again?
Haha. Ok !lemmygrad 😂🤣😂. Here’s your L. Have a nice day.
mfw countries where the median income is 10% of the USA's can provide more housing for the people living in it, you are so cucked lmao
The US murder rate (6.81) and Russia (6.80) are virtually identical. The suicide rates though…
US suicide rate - 14.04
Russia suicide rate - 21.6
No word on the window rate for each country.
Happiness index
US - 6.951
Russia - 5.477
I think it's pretty hilarious that you assume everybody opposed to capitalism is Russian, and use that as a counter-example for why "communism" is failing today.
Did history stop for you in 1991 or something? The neoliberals won; Russia has been a hyper-capitalist abomination living in the corpse of the USSR for over three decades now. Why would we care that Russia sucks? Everybody knows it sucks now.
"socialism is when you're in russia. the more russia you are in, the more socialism is what's wrong america #1 football hotdog toby keith." - the diabetic gym teacher who taught this guy's social studies class.
I've read and re-read this thread... Do you think Russia is currently communist? Like... Putin is a communist, the United Russia Party is communist etc etc. Is this actually your belief?
Nice whataboutism you tankie! Centrist liberal tankie!!!
Lol. Lmao even
It’s true. That’s why our homelessness incidence are less than 10% of yours. Maybe that’s why you’re trying to drive yours down by conscripting your homeless and forcing them into “former glory” wars?
I assume, accurately, that all you hexbears are Russian trolls, Hindu Nationalists, or various flavors of pudgey man children collectively known as college communists who want to seize the means of production from their parents that didn’t give them enough hugs. Which flavor are you? I bet it’s the last one 😂
racism to own the gommies. gottem
Lol. rACisM!!!1. Why don’t you just trot out the Hitler Card while you’re at it!
Here you go bro, I’ll give you that hug you’ve been desperately missing 🤗
Hahahahahahahhahaha
You aren't a real person, 'opinion' discarded
You know what's worse than a cinderblock gulag? Homelessness.
As someone who has been homeless, I would MUCH rather live my entire life in a "cinderblock gulag" then spend even a second homeless. So, yes, if we ever were to get such buildings provided to us from the government, I would greatly enjoy them.
If you own property the state is already your landlord.
Well, then tell the government to come clean my gutter.
Oh, you want capitalist housing? Enjoy your tent getting destroyed by cops.