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Surprise.

Bet you didn't see this one coming.

This week's post has been pretty late. I'm a bit troubled by yesterday's thread on Apple. So, a foreword: It's OK to prefer something over another, it's not OK to say people who like different phones than you are somehow more childish or less intelligent than you. Again, we are going for casual, yet intensely helpful here, so please don't call people names over petty reasons, we have rules here.

Previously on Lemmy:

Past Discussions:

In this post, it's not about saying how bad iPhones are, but I'd just like to hear the perspective on iPhones from Android users. I, for one, had an old iPhone 4 for a long time (call it nostalgia, or laziness, or just being cheap), and it was my general frustration with the device that ultimately led to my preference for Androids, (It was quite a while back though).

  • It was absolutely painful to transfer files from the phone to my computer (Ugh, iTunes).

  • I got it pre-jailbroken and didn't realize you can't just update the system casually, so it was really fun trying to find ways to downgrade the system until I realized that I can't and have to pray for the next jailbreak to get half my things working again.

  • The 40-pin cable wears out so fast, and always in the same spot on the strain relief. I swear I've gone through 3 of these cables in one year just from normal use.

  • All the browsers are somehow flavors of Safari. To do anything, I will have the choice of ad-filled websites, or ad-filled apps.

It always just seemed like I'm fighting against the system. Never did I have that "it just works" moment, until I've got my first Android, and realize I have the freedom to do whatever I want with it, and I can install what I want, and if there's a problem, I can look things up and fix it myself.

(Having a back button is also a game changer.)

Of course, there is a lot that Android manufacturers can learn from Apple as well, one of the most obvious one is the time for software support: I think my old iPhone has gone through like 3 version updates over the years, whereas currently I'm lucky to get 2 out of any Android manufacturer.

But it seems that Android manufacturers are more content on copying things that works for iOS, but doesn't work for Android, like removing the headphone jack. Or big notches. (It makes no sense to do that because of Android's notification system uses the full length of the bar.) It's gotten to the point that I don't think people who makes Android phones actually uses Android but are content to copy superficial features from Apple without understanding why Apple do them.

Like a bunch of lemmings. (Heh)

Again, these are my personal preferences, I have nothing against people who prefers iPhones, nor do I think they are lesser for it, but it's just not for me.

I'd use a one as a work phone/for iMessages though.

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[–] Coffeemonkepants@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Apple is winning the communications game and I'm afraid I'll wind up switching once they go usb c. I'm sick and tired of the iMessage walled garden when messaging nearly everyone I know, and also tried of the hit or miss debacle of rcs. I will miss the customization freedom (currently using Niagara launcher and it's super unique ux), but Android phones have deleted all of the other benefits that separated them from iPhones, like expandable storage, ir blasters, headphone jacks, etc. I hate to jump on the bandwagon, but I'm sick of waiting for this all to be worked out. Before anyone says to use signal or Whatsapp, etc, it just isn't a standard here in the US. Folks will never switch off iMessage.

[–] weeeeum@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah I understand your pain too, in the US almost everybody has iPhones. Thankfully you can get iMessage on Android by having an old iPhone and connecting it to an open source app on Android.

As for the lost features, it is extremely unfortunate too. I can't fathom why execs would even attempt copy them because no one does apple better than apple (undying loyalty and brand). All they are doing is alienating those who want an alternative to apple by making a shitty knock off iPhone.

Sony is a god send though keeping the android spirit alive. New phones have a headphone jack, expandable storage, fingerprint sensor, light indicator, dedicated focus and shutter button, assistant button, 4k 120hz display and probably more. They are expensive but you can get the last gen top model for like 700$ (or last last gen for 500$ which is almost identical). A good deal since it's only 1 years old and MSRP was like 1200$

Seriously Sony does not get anywhere near the attention they deserves despite everyone bitching about their lost headphone jack and microsd storage.

[–] xio@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Just a small correction- the latest Xperia 1 V lost the notification light led. Everything else is good though. Replying on my Xperia 1 ii

[–] blssflbreeze@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

I wish I had the money for an xperia phone. really really want one. that or an ROG phone.

[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think having Sup. will change that, since you can tell them "Hey, check out this cool Instagram/Twitter/reddit/Facebook thing! It also comes with this cool messager!" and they'll switch.

Hopefully.

[–] Coffeemonkepants@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know what you're referring to

[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh, the maker of Pixelfed (Instagram equivalent) announced that he's making a secure messanger called "Sup." with the Signal protocol that should work for ALL Fediverse accounts (Mastodon, Lemmy/Kbin, Pixelfed, Friendica, etc.).

[–] Coffeemonkepants@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I'm literally the only person I know who uses any of these platforms. A new messaging service out of those won't ever be on their radar.

[–] DharmaCurious@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Damn, really? Anywhere to follow the progress? Not a techie, and I do not understand GitHub. Lol. Mastodon account or lemmy community to follow?

[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://lemmy.ml/post/3697221

Dan Sup's Mastodon should have some progress, but he works on multiple projects at once.

He said the beta should be out at the end of month though.

[–] DharmaCurious@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Whoops, just saw this. Thanks!

[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I haven't seen much new info on this even though its supposed to be coming out soon.

Just scoured the mastodon, and haven't really seen anything. It sounds like a huge undertaking, so I'm guessing it's probably delayed? The dev seems like a good guy, though!