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I'm looking at Skiff's services lately and it's actually looking pretty good!
They offer E-mail, Pages (docs), Calendar and Drive.
(Almost) Everything is E2EE, see here.

Their E-mail service supports custom domains, unlimited aliases, easy migration, auto-reply, schedule and undo sends and more stuff. One thing to note is they also encrypt the e-mail subject, whereas (for example) Proton Mail does not.

They have Pages, which is something like docs+notes+wikis. They have teams, real-time collaboration, public link sharing and version history. I don't really care much about this but it's really nice to have.

They have Calendar, which I'm not really gonna get into because I'm not really into that stuff. You can check it here if you want.

And finally they have Drive. They offer 10 GB of storage for free, you can upload any file type with any size (well, of course within the limit), easy migration and the option to store your stuff on the IPFS which is really great.

Some of the features I mentioned are not free, you can see their pricing here. They have a free tier for (of course) nothing, an Essential tier for $3, A Pro tier for $8 and a Business tier for $12 dollars per user per month. These are yearly prices so keep that in mind.

Also, they are based in the US if that's a privacy concern for you.

Now, I want to ask this question: Can Skiff be a Proton competitor? I'm... not so sure. They have only been around for about 3 years, but they are developing very fast. They are also active with their community on reddit and Discord, so that's cool. My suggestion right now is to use both. You can use Proton's Mail and Calendar and Skiff's Drive for example. Proton has a VPN and a password manager and Skiff has Pages, so you can use all of those if you want.

I think Skiff has a bright future, if they make the right choices they will grow more.

This is kind of a half-review without testing I guess.

So what do you think about Skiff?

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[–] mishimaenjoyer@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"One thing to note is they also encrypt the e-mail subject, whereas (for example) Proton Mail does not." - protonmail does encrypt their mails if you send it to another protonmail address, and skiff is doing the exact same thing.

[–] Version@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

Proton Mail does not encrypt the subject line afaik.

But yes, the content is encrypted.

[–] Sucuk@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Proton Mail encrypts the content of the mails, not the subject. So even if it is a Proton Mail-to-Proton Mail conversation the subject is not encrypted. Skiff also encrypts the subject of the mail in a Skiff-to-skiff conversation.

[–] mishimaenjoyer@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

proton-to-proton-mails are end-to-end-encrypted and so are password protected mails sent outside proton servers. i once had to reset the password of my kids protonmail and all the mails - including the subject - had become unreadable.

https://proton.me/support/proton-mail-encryption-explained

[–] Sucuk@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Hmm, I see, my bad.
They do encrypt the subject and recipient/sender's e-mails but they are not e2ee.
Thanks for the correction.