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President Volodymyr Zelensky left the White House early without signing a mineral deal with the United States following a heated exchange with President Donald Trump on Feb. 28.

Zelensky departed in his motorcade around 1:45 p.m. local time, without holding a joint news conference scheduled for later in the day, after the two leaders got into a heated argument while speaking with journalists in the Oval Office.

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CNN reported that following the exchange, Zelensky and Trump left to separate rooms, with the Ukrainian delegation wanting to continue talks with the Trump administration.

Trump later ordered his officials to tell the Ukrainian officials to leave the White House, despite protest from the Ukrainian delegation.

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[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, list experiments. There are several research papers with such methodology that I am aware of that cover russian support for the invasion of Ukraine. One shows 65% support for the full scale invasion (even after preference falsification adjustments). Another one regarding annexation of Crimea shows 80% support with no preference falsification (i.e. full alignment with other polling methods); an overwhelming majority of russian really do support the annexation of Crimes; the first stage of their invasion of Ukraine.

And even logically, the mere existence of preference falsification doesn't inherently means that it is impossible for a strong majority of russians to be supporters of genocidal imperialism. The preference falsification would be have to be significant (which needs to be shown empirically).

The 33% support figure conflicts all other research on this topic (using any methodology), that's why I was asking.

No worries if you don't don't a have link. I might do some random searches using 33% as a base. Cheers!

[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'd be very interested in more recent stuff. As I mentioned, the last time I seriously looked at this was 3 years ago, in the opening stages of the war. It's very possible that new methods have been developed, people's opinions have changed over time, or both. If you could possibly throw me some links to more recent papers, I'd greatly appreciate it!

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Haven't really seen too many new list experiment polling (which is really too bad).

There is a good report from Dec 2024 on the topic:

The reluctant consensus: War and Russia’s public opinion

While the authors use more neutral language (while still being critical), I think it's reasons to state that this another piece of research that confirms the position that a strong majority of russians are genocidal imperialists.