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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

Vote as far left as possible all the way up, if it ends up as trump v clinton then it should be the lefter of the two.

And Democrats will always take advantage of that. They supported genocide last election. How much further to the right are they going to go? Because they will never move one Planck length to the left.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world -1 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Push the party left and then vote for them. I would personally rathwr have useless weasels in power over soulless ghouls intent on stripping the country bare

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 59 minutes ago* (last edited 59 minutes ago)

Push the party left and then vote for them.

Yeah, that was the line about Biden. He supported genocide instead of moving left.

I would personally rathwr have useless weasels in power over soulless ghouls intent on stripping the country bare

Or anyone interested in fixing anything.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 37 minutes ago

Push the party left and then vote for them.

That's what many leftists tried to do: push Democrats at least left enough to stop actively committing genocide before they'd vote for them. The Democrats refused to budge.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone -1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

okay so what’s your next step? because letting the right win has to be the stupidest ever way to influence change to the left

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

because letting the right win has to be the stupidest ever way to influence change to the left

Maybe the party shouldn't have done it then. There will never be anything that will get Democrats to move to the left. You know it. You love it. It's why you're gloating with your spoiled milk analogy.

[–] rocket_dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

No, he asked for a next step. Because leftists can't get a win.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Because leftists can’t get a win.

Oh, you gonna gloat too? Ok, hows about the party hold honest primaries for fucking once. Or primaries at all? How's that for step 2? Then again, since you love your sour milk, that's a nonstarter too.

[–] rocket_dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 51 minutes ago (1 children)

You're a bit weird, I'm still not talking about Democrats, I'm talking about leftists.

What can leftists do to get a win?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 38 minutes ago

Well, they could take over the green party. They're a small party with even smaller primaries. The left could just saunter in and take it. From there, they could extract concessions from Democrats in exchange for not running. Or run. If Democrats don't want to split the vote, they don't have to field a candidate. It's not like they're interested in winning in the first place.

[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

But if they consistently win it still alter the political landscape such that someone else will have a better chance of enacting actual change in the future.

The two party system is garbage, but if one of the two current parties lost its ability to win entirely then a different second option could appear.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Agree. Within legal means, this is the only way to shift the Overton Window back left. When Democrats are secured from Republicans, then we should be pushing for more progressive options. Democrats would not be expanding the concentration camps like the Republicans are.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 35 minutes ago (1 children)

You can't "push for more progressive options" when you've already ceded all power.

Democrats would not be expanding the concentration camps like the Republicans are.

History suggests otherwise.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 31 minutes ago

How far back? I'm pissed Obama and Biden didn't close Gitmo, but they didn't expand it either.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 2 points 58 minutes ago (1 children)

Fuck legal means, this is yer problem its all pride and democracy this until its dismantled in front of ye. Taking the high road has given ye a petulant retard as a leader. Maybe throw "legal" out the window, they did.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 38 minutes ago

I know what I said. A human knows how to interpret it.

RPing on an open forum will only get you a visit from the FBI.