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What counts as an attack for the purposes of the invisibility spell? (lemmy.ca)
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I'm trying to figure out a ruling for something one of my players wants to do. They're invisible, but they took a couple of seemingly non-attack actions that my gut says should break inviz.

Specifically, they dumped out a flask of oil, and then used a tinderbox to light it on fire. Using a tinderbox isn't an attack, nor is emptying a flask, although they are actions , and the result of lighting something on fire both seems like an attack and something that would dispell inviz.

I know that as DM I can rule it however I want, but I'm fairly inexperienced and I don't wanna go nerfing one of my players tools just because it feels yucky to me personally without understanding the implications.

Is this an attack or is there another justification for breaking inviz that is there some RAW clause I didn't see? Or should this be allowed?

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[โ€“] Jeeve65@ttrpg.network 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

5e RAW, they remain invisible. However, using the tinderbox will make noise so enemies will likely notice that.

In the 2024 rules, dealing damage (even if not by attacking) causes invisibility to end.

NOTE: both versions of the rules (see the oil item description) state that in this scenario, an enemy only takes damage if it enters or ends its turn in the oiled space. Starting their turn in the burning oil does not cause damage, so just moving out of the space will prevent the damage. The lighting of the oil also does not cause immediate damage

[โ€“] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 1 points 13 hours ago

What about item damage?
Items have hit points, you can damage them... I'm assuming that counts?

Although idk if I'm ready to switch to the new rules mid-campaign