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[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 63 points 7 hours ago (7 children)

I feel like scientists should move towards open source solutions ... I feel like most scientists are smart enough to launch a mastodon server, but well.

[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 hours ago

Being a scientist doesn't mean you have the technical knowledge to run a public facing server.

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 8 points 3 hours ago

Bluesky is open source though

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 22 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Most scientists aren't allowed to do stuff like that, or purely just don't have the time.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 10 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Or know how. Just because they are scientists doesn't mean that they are necessarily particularly computer literate. I once had to explain to a university professor that wireless electricity doesn't exist, and the Wi-Fi is only for internet. So yeah.

[–] jayandp@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 hours ago

I mean, wireless electricity tech does exist, it just sucks and is horribly inefficient at any reasonable distance.

[–] naught101@lemmy.world -1 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

What.. Are you taking about? I know hundreds of scientists and the vast majority of them interact with social media just as much as normal people.

[–] finder585@lemmy.world 15 points 5 hours ago

I'd reckon that managing a social media server is more involved than just using social media.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Using social media is far removed from operating your own publicly available social media server.

This coming from someone who is trying to get more mastodon usage in higher ed. Profs aren't the ones who operate these things. Merely getting the approval to get the project started is an immense task.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 6 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

University IT departments don't want to be running some random Mastodon on the server anyway. It's got nothing to do with the universities day-to-day operations it's just an extra thing that would be required on top of what they already do.

Also the only university professors who would actually be able to run the server themselves will be those in the computer science domain. A biologist isn't going to know how to do it any more than any random member of the public.

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

while I agree, the reality of the situation is that when you get down to comparing feature to feature, open source solutions tend to be technically inferior to proprietary ones.

I use linux because I hate microsoft, not because it's more feature complete than windows (it isn't).

I use lemmy because I hate u/spez, not because it's more feature complete than reddit (it isn't).

I use blender because it's free and it's actually kinda great, if all free and open source software was like blender, then it would be a no-brainer to use FOSS all of the time, and it would be easy to convince the normies to do the same.


also also

I'm using linux mint, i have minor complaints about it, but nothing worse than what microsoft is currently doing with windows. It's just different, and that bothers me. middle click paste is the bane of my existence, but other people swear by it. Just before I switched over, I learned about windows 10's built in emoji keyboard, and I really liked that. A year later (literally last week) I discovered a program that does most of what the windows emoji thingy did, and I can manually edit a keybind for the function to accomplish amost the same thing. FOSS, yay, it's free if you don't value your time in currency amounts. FOSS could be so good if only it were good.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I use linux because I hate microsoft, not because it’s more feature complete than windows (it isn’t).

lol... "Feature complete" if you want terrible features.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 1 hour ago

Yeah. Another Linux mint user here, and when it comes to “feature” differences with Windows it’s usually for the better. I describe it to people as the difference between an OS trying to fulfill the diverse needs of all the stakeholders in a mega corporation, versus an OS that was made to serve the needs of only the users.

For a normal mainstream user that pretty much just needs a web browser and maybe a local document/spreadsheet editor it is faster and stays out of the way.

For a power user that fiddles with the system like a lot of people on Lemmy probably are, you learn different ways to fix different issues on the two. Linux allows you the control to do what you want with your machine, and that also means you can do bad stuff. So there’s always a tradeoff.

For people somewhere in the middle, maybe a normal user who has niche hardware for their hobby, it’s a toss up. I’m sure Windows comes out ahead due to its popularity, which means that’s where the vendor puts their effort.

[–] naught101@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

Some of us have. There are a few science focused servers.

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Never meet your heroes. If a scientist is human, they're as fallible as any other. Just like some teachers aren't there because they're passionate. Some legitimately are bad if you ever had parent teacher conferences. Not passion nor intelligence saves you from making poor choices

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 0 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

Just because they are using Mastodon they are bad people? What the hell kind of take is that?

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm just saying, because someone is a scientist absolutely does not absolve them of human fallibility. I just don't like the take of "because scientist, therefore smart or wise" and that's not true, they're just (hopefully) educated and credible in their one specific field and nothing else. I wouldn't blindly trust a scientist's choice of social network. It makes no sense. I'd instead trust their education on their specific field.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Right but Mastodon is irritating to use, isn't it? It has actual problems. I think it's intellectually dishonest to pretend that it doesn't have problems and therefore anyone not using it is being ignorant.

[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

It's a take that apparently requires a lack of reading comprehension on your part.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 1 hour ago

And absolute rudeness on yours.

I'm just a little sick of this attitude that everyone on here seems to have that everyone should be using Mastodon without consideration for the fact that it does have quite a large number of downsides. It's ridiculous not to accept that fact and not to want to improve the platform so that the downside aren't there and then people would use it.

You can't berate people for not using the product you want them to use if the product you want them to use is annoying to use