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Donald Trump has said that Palestinians have “no alternative” but to leave Gaza due to the devastation left by Israel’s war on Hamas, in effect endorsing ethnic cleansing of the territory over the opposition of Palestinians and the neighbouring countries.

Speaking as he prepared to host Israel’s prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, on Tuesday, Trump repeated the suggestion that Gaza’s population should be relocated to Jordan and Egypt – something both countries have firmly rejected.

Trump claimed Palestinians would “love to leave Gaza”, telling reporters: “I would think that they would be thrilled.”

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[–] bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

applying diplomatic pressure

US diplomatic pressure delayed the Rafah offensive by several weeks. And there were many other things as well.

[–] dx1@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

US diplomatic pressure delayed the Rafah offensive by several weeks. And there were many other things as well.

First - provide any real proof of this.

Second - Rafah is completely destroyed. Biden administration described it as a "red line" along with the weasel words "major operation", and then walked it back after it was completely destroyed, saying the "red line" had not been crossed, despite Rafah having been completely destroyed. With the bombs they provided.

The U.S. is a military superpower. "Israel" is not. Actual diplomatic pressure applied would have ended the genocide - period. Your comment just screams to me how little research you've done on the genocide.

[–] bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

provide any real proof of this

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/how-israel-avoided-bidens-red-line-ad715144

For obvious reasons, I don’t have transcripts of secret diplomatic meetings.

saying the “red line” had not been crossed, despite Rafah having been completely destroyed

Yes, because the civilians had more time to leave because of US pressure.

would have ended the genocide

The ICJ ordered Israel to take measures that ensure there won’t be a genocide.

It’s a brutal war in in a dense urban environment against a deeply entrenched enemy hiding behind civilians.

[–] dx1@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

For obvious reasons, I don’t have transcripts of secret diplomatic meetings.

OK, so in other words, no proof except the say-so of the involved parties. Which demonstrably was not enough to stop Rafah from being flattened.

Yes, because the civilians had more time to leave because of US pressure.

Also known as "ethnic cleansing". You're aware the civilians did not want to leave?

The ICJ ordered Israel to take measures that ensure there won’t be a genocide.

And they didn't. They didn't even hand in the mandated report after... 1 month? That was a year ago now.

It’s a brutal war in in a dense urban environment against a deeply entrenched enemy hiding behind civilians.

We really arguing the Zionist talking points now? This how far this site has sunk?

"Human shields" argument also completely unsubstantiated, and visibly used as an excuse to demolish all civilian infrastructure. ~40k Hamas fighters, Hamas not even removed from power, after 1.5 years where hundreds of thousands of civilians have been killed and the entire Gaza Strip has been completely flattened. And hundreds of openly genocidal statements from "Israeli" politicians, no less! My god, to actually fucking ignore those.

I'm not responding to this guy again. Assuming he's gonna keep going. What he's posting is literal genocidal incitement.

Also known as “ethnic cleansing”.

Evacuation of civilians from warzones is not only legal under international humanitarian law, it’s required.

“Human shields” argument also completely unsubstantiated

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_human_shields_by_Hamas#2023_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war

hundreds of thousands of civilians have been killed

Hamas run health minister claims 62,000 dead and missing. Where are you getting these ridiculous numbers?

Gaza Strip has been completely flattened

Estimates are 59.8% of buildings in the Gaza Strip had been damaged or destroyed.

Destroyed buildings are not a genocide.

What he’s posting is literal genocidal incitement

You have completely lost the plot.

I never advocated for Palestinians to be killed.