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Donald Trump has said that Palestinians have “no alternative” but to leave Gaza due to the devastation left by Israel’s war on Hamas, in effect endorsing ethnic cleansing of the territory over the opposition of Palestinians and the neighbouring countries.

Speaking as he prepared to host Israel’s prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, on Tuesday, Trump repeated the suggestion that Gaza’s population should be relocated to Jordan and Egypt – something both countries have firmly rejected.

Trump claimed Palestinians would “love to leave Gaza”, telling reporters: “I would think that they would be thrilled.”

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[–] RightEdofer@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

…because of a ceasefire Biden admin spent months brokering. It’s like you all don’t realize time exists. 🤦‍♂️

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The same ceasefire that was on the table since April and was sabotaged by Israel repeatedly with no consequences from the Biden administration. And before that there were other ceasefire initiatives, that the Biden administration did not push Israel for. Also Biden himself praised how his team worked together closely with Trumps team in making the current ceasefire (that gets violated by Israel regularly) happen.

Finally Biden and Blinken kept repeatedly lying about Hamas not wanting a ceasefire, when it was Israel sabotaging the ceasefire negotiations, while Hamas kept saying they agreed to the proposal.

You simply cannot reject all the empirical evidence and flee into some idea of the actions of Biden to be somehow better, leave alone justifiable. More than 50,000, realistically more than 100,000 murdered Palestinians and the destruction of almost all of Gaza prove the contrary.

Trump now claiming that Palestinians would need to leave Gaza, because it became unlivable, screams to ask who made it unlivable. And there is more than 17,000,000,000 $ worth of bombs, that Biden delivered to Israel to make this destruction happen, as an answer to that.

Trump is speaking the quiet parts out loud. But Biden was steadfast in making it happen. And he and Harris kept emphasizing throughout the election campaigning, that they will stand by Israel no matter what. The reality is that both the DNC and the Reps want this genocide. They want to expand the US empire for their oligarchs. They will absolutely murder everyone who stands in the way of the empire, unless they are stopped from it.

And this is not a new story. Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan... Palestine is just another item on the list of bipartisan murder and destruction.

[–] tankfox@midwest.social 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

So since the both sides made it inevitable you really just want it over with faster then, by helping to choose the person who will make sure it's accomplished faster and with less compassion? You went with the one more likely to start doing the same thing on US soil? This is the choice you endorse?

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Remove both sides from power, and stop thinking in the box of "we are given the choice of two evils and choose the lesser one." No! Break the box and remove the people from power who only offer evils as choice.

If people didn't fall over backwards to defend the Democrats and pushed for a third party instead, if there had been more protests, if there had been direct actions against arms manufacturer and other complicit companies, the US might had reevaluated its support for the genocide. And these things still need to be done. The solution does not come from either the Republicans or Democrats, who both supported and still support the genocide of Palestinians, like they both supported the mass slaughter of Iraqis and Afghanis, like they both supported the mass slaughter of Vietnamese, like they both supported the genocide of native Americans...

[–] tankfox@midwest.social 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

That's an awesome ideal that has never been more further away due to the inaction of team pro-palestine! We're now in a real danger of all of those very necessary protests becoming criminalized instead! Everything you say you want is now impossible for a generation because the way you tried to get them was so lazy!

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah. Clearly all the people that tried doing something, that got beaten up a protests, that got assaulted by extremists in their campus camps... Yeah those people are at fault. Not at fault are of course the people who did nothing except confirming to the people in power that they are fine with the genocide.

[–] tankfox@midwest.social 3 points 4 hours ago

Oh god no, not all of them, just the ones who didn't vote, and those are the ones responsible for this new fresh hell the Palestinians go through as the ceasefire turns into concentration camps and involuntary deportation to Egypt and Jordan.

If you really think Kamela would be saying things like 'why don't we just evict all the Palestinians from Gaza' right now then you're not interfacing with the same reality that the rest of us are.