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I already have a seedbox, but I am realizing I paid for it with my credit card (dumb) even though I used a fake name and contact info. I am going to change providers and migrate my data, but I now need to actually pay for it securely (piracy in my country is only legal if only downloading) since I not only plan to seed to a private tracker and others but also would like to buy a larger box to help out with anna's archive torrents. How do you all pay for your usenet / seedboxes?

I understand if crypto is recommended, but I dislike using it due to high overhead costs and general skepticism, so I would love some other options or providers that offer them (current provider only has crypto, stripe and PayPal).

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[–] Byter@lemmy.one 11 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Dissenting opinion - You don't need to change your payment method, but you might want to rent a box outside your country.

The seedbox provider is providing you sufficient cover. They're the ones who would have to make the link between the IP you're using and you. That's unlikely to happen because they've protected themselves.


A copyright owner (or their agent) that is interested in identifying you from your seeding would send a letter to the data center owner (OVH, Hetzner, etc) saying "Hey, one of your IPs is infringing our copyright! Tell them to stop."

The data center owner might forward that letter on to the seedbox provider who is renting space in their data center. Either way, the letter will be ignored and everyone goes on with their day.

If the copyright owner is sufficiently motivated they can press the issue with some lawyers. Then the data center will provide a name, to make it all someone else's problem. They don't have your name though, just the seedbox provider's, and the seedbox provider is smartly incorporated in another country, which makes litigation complicated (to say the least).

Now, maybe the copyright owner is a cabal of publishers looking to make a point and have buckets of money to spend. (You did say you wanted to mirror Anna's Archive.) In that case they'll work with local law enforcement in the jurisdiction that the seedbox provider is incorporated to go after them there.

That court case will take some years to resolve, but then your involvement will come down to whether the seedbox provider kept logs associating payers and IPs. They might or might not. If they didn't, you're just one person in a big pool of customers.

If they do have logs associating you specifically to that IP at the time you were infringing the copyright... well, who's to say your credit card wasn't stolen?

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 14 hours ago

Thank you for this!

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