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What's great about this, and Stephen Fry is brilliant, is not that he's absolving Musk, or that he's criticizing Tesla, but that it is an argument likely leading to Elon Musk protesting,

'No, my cars are good enough that I can be a Nazi!'

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I would describe Elon Musk as an autistic adult whose weird behavior patterns and way too much money are dangerous in a system that gives money way too much power.

[–] Rookwood@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Autism =/= fascism or even being an insensitive moron. Autistic people are often highly sensitive to such topics.

You're painting autistic people in a bad light. There is nothing about autism that excuses such behavior.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

There's also no reason to take anything I said as an "excuse".

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

I would describe the wealthiest person in the world, Elon Musk, as the oligarchic son of an apartheid mining oligarch. His personality “quirks” are an irrelevant distraction that excuse & explain nothing.

[–] Sceptique@leminal.space 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've autistic friend, she's not a nazi. He's just a cruel and rich sociopath.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I would say your friend's actions need to be watched and controlled because they're dangerous, and that the friend as a person needs help.

[–] Sceptique@leminal.space 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Ahahah that's a good joke, it took me a minute to catch

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

No joke, and my bad - I actually misread the comment to say they had an autistic friend who was not a nazi but was a cruel and rich sociopath, so what I said was totally inappropriate and not something I wanted to say. Deleting.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

His potential neurodivergence does not excuse the evil. The majority of autistic people comprehend morality.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 month ago

I don't think he's trying to excuse it. I think he's saying you'd view an autistic Nazi walmart greeter more differently than you'd view an autistic Nazi whose already the wealthiest man in the world, and society's values are letting that wealth have a huge platform and allowing him to basically run the country unilaterally.

An autistic Nazi plebian doesn't have that kind of influence. Many people would probably pity them. An autistic Nazi being given the world is probably a bad thing.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah I guess we're not allowed to talk about this guy clinically at all. Has to be about good vs evil.

[–] Rookwood@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You want to argue that armchair psychology is more important in this situation than condemning doing a Nazi salute?

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Armchair psychology and armchair political rants are both armchair activities., so neither is more important, and they can both happen at the same time.

It's just interesting that all statements about are considered support if they aren't condemnation. If you said Bill Cosby used to do funny standup for example, you would be flooded with hate because the only acceptable reason to mention Cosby is condemn him for being horrible. But understanding the psychology of horrible people is actually important. Think how it would be if you got a rectal disease and it turned out there was no cure because assholes are gross so nobody studies them and anybody who mentions them except to rant about how disgusting they are gets pounded with douchevotes and called a pervert. Objective talk about aspects of sociopaths should be okay. Don't be the Christian who clutches their rosary every time somebody says "Satan".

[–] MyNameIsIgglePiggle@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not a lot of normies can hyperfocus enough to become billionaires

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

I think extreme wealth is a matter of luck. Lots of equally clever, equally hardworking people succeed moderately, but extreme wealth and success are a perfect storm of timing, economics, and a lot of other things that nobody controls.