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How much do you blame the people who voted for Trump or other fascists? (lemmy.world)

submitted 2 weeks ago by Mr_Fish@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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To be clear, I am only talking about people like the average working class Trump voter. The ones who just got caught by misinformation, and just haven't been able to find a way out. Trump and all his mates are terrible people, and should be held accountable.

The average voter is another thing. My attitude is that I got lucky, and found out that Trump and his mates are terrible, instead of getting sucked down a rabbit hole of supporting them. Knowing how fascism works, I don't know if I'd be able to reliably land on the right side if fascism happened in my home country. And if I don't believe I could reliably spot fascism, I'm not comfortable acting like those who support Trump could have.

This isn't a discussion of "just be a good person". I know plenty of amazing, caring people who believe they're doing the right thing.

This whole idea of "I can't say is reliably avoid fascism" is based on this, the school that became fascist for a week. As bad of an experiment that was from that teacher, it was an effective way of teaching how people fall for what should be obviously a bad thing.

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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not trying to start an argument, just trying to make a point because I’ve been seeing “Genocide Joe & Kamala Cheney” around a lot lately.

That would be because Biden and Harris aided and abetted a genocide for the last 15 months.

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Not denying that. But at the same time I'm pretty sure every president since Bill Clinton would have done the exact same thing because they're all a bunch of cowards. And things will only get worse under Trump. The only candidate that would have taken action is someone like Bernie Sanders. Like him or not, at least he's not a fucking coward. I understand the need to protest, but refusing to vote for the lesser of two evils is basically just a vote for the more evil choice.

I think the expectation that a candidate should do everything you want them too is just naive. From the most mundane of policies to literal war crimes you can't expect to agree on everything. There has never been a "perfect" candidate. Innocent people are getting killed on a daily basis over there and the fact that both candidates didn't seem to give a shit is disgusting. And I know it's a fucked up situation and it's a fucked up choice to even make, but it was our choice to make and we fucked it up. We can blame the candidates all we want, but at the end of the day it was our choice to vote for who we wanted to vote for. And the result of that was fucking Trump.