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[โ€“] ivn@jlai.lu 24 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[โ€“] Nemo@slrpnk.net 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'd say the Nordics are somewhat economically left-wing.

They're not socially progressive, no.

[โ€“] frank@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Compared to the US, I'd say they're extremely socially progressive.

Healthcare, low gender pay gap, higher "minimum" wages (I know there's no legal minimum most places but there are commonly accepted lowest wages), very low homelessness, very LGBT+ accepting.

Socially progressive enough? Not for my tastes. But it's a lot better than the US in social systems

[โ€“] P00ptart@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm as left as they come but the gender pay gap is a myth. It's all choice of field. If you average male teachers, it's going to be about the same as average female teachers. Going up and down for experience and other stuff, but it'll be close, the thing is, teachers don't get paid much and there's more female teachers than male. The opposite is true in IT or other digital/computing worlds. They pay better than teachers, but there's more men in this profession than women. The gender pay gap is a myth made up by averaging all employed people. I'm sorry but that is not a thing. If someone was still paying people significantly more or less based on their sex, people would be up in arms.

There are so many things to fight for in the name of justice, but this one isn't it.

[โ€“] frank@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago

The point is that the opportunities are systemically lower for women, so they end up less experienced on the whole or out of the workforce longer.

[โ€“] sbv@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It was.

Eugenics was considered left wing around the 1930s. In Canada, the "father of Medicare" initially supported eugenics but realized how awful it was pretty quickly. The women who got universal sufferage similarly supported eugenics.

As a lefty, it sucks, but we need to be aware of our past and avoid similar mistakes.

[โ€“] kalleboo@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

As recent as the 90's it also used to be left-wing to oppose immigration, since it was seen as a way for the right to devalue labor and lower wages.

A lot has changed.

[โ€“] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

That's how immigration is used as is, but borders divide the working class against themselves and should be removed.

If only nation states had to compete on quality of life to keep their population up. If only nation states could be dissolved.