cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/37218429
When called out on it, they then doubled down on this dogshit take: https://archive.ph/quYyb
this post was submitted on 16 Jan 2025
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Do what? Enter their credit card info into a webform? Sure, why not?
No, go out of their way to sign up with foreign payment agencies.
Surely that would be on the service, not the customer, no? They would charge a foreign transaction fee, which is annoying, but it can also be avoided by using pretty much any travel card.
Did you look at the payment options before you commented? They are conventional, like credit cards, paypal, and even Bitcoin. You are expecting people to expend the effort on Proton’s behalf to help Proton avoid US taxes? I’m not sure what you’re arguing at this point. Proton makes money in the US via conventional means, therefore is then subject to whatever US laws and policies are applicable. Not sure what the big deal is.
Yes, they do, I'm saying they could avoid US payment processors if they wanted to w/o really any change for users other than maybe changing the credit card they use to avoid the foreign transaction fee. That was the whole thrust of this comment chain.
I think Tuta does that since I'm charged in euros and subject to foreign transaction fees, so I doubt they pay US taxes. It's no big deal, I just use a credit card w/ 0% FTF and I'm good to go.
This is the point of this thread that you are arguing against by making up scenarios for the customer or Proton to avoid US entanglements. The point of this thread is that yes, Proton is subject to US law regarding money made in the US. End of story.
If you want to create hypotheticals where Proton excludes US customers or coulda done this and coulda done that, whatever man. You can make up whatever you want to be right. The question has been answered.