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[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)
[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

you see, these 2 are equally as bad because a german that doesn't speak a word of mandarin and has not ever visited china provided me a satellite picture of a big building and wrote a fan fiction about it.

[–] nooneescapesthelaw@mander.xyz 0 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 0 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Sandinistas killing babies

[–] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiEhITvJuyE

You can watch this and look for any evidence of your claim. You wont see any. Or you can take my word for it when i tell you i literally spoke to a uyghur from Xinjiang on XHS the other day and they were chillin enjoying life.

Either way maybe dont just take the word of whatever Western Media mouthpieces tell you?

[–] alcibiades@lemm.ee 0 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

C’mon bro we can’t seriously be debating if the Uyghur genocide is real. Obviously China isn’t all evil but this is a well documented genocide.

And bro why you pulling the “I’m not racist, I have a black friend” card. Shut yo bitch ass up

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 0 points 51 minutes ago

well documented genocide.

source?

the UN, it addition to numerous countries including ones that have a Muslim majority have investigated and concluded that the genocide is a fabrication

The claims of genocide that appear in western media can be traced back to single source; Adrian Zenz a german christian fundamentalist who is on a self described 'a holy war to destroy China' and writes books such has '2012. Worthy to Escape: Why All Believers Will Not Be Raptured Before the Tribulation,'

Do you really believe this nutjob is a more reliable source on events in Xinjiang than the UN's Office of Human Rights?

[–] TC_209@hexbear.net 0 points 2 hours ago

"It's well-documented!"
"May I see the documents?"
"...No."

[–] markinov@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 11 hours ago

All vloggers are paid by CPC, every Chinese you meet on the internet are bots. /s

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 0 points 1 day ago (3 children)

? The UN says their is no Uyghur genocide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UN_Human_Rights_Office_report_on_Xinjiang, and I trust their investigation alot more than those from countries like the US that have a vested interest in painting China as negatively as possible

Even if the propaganda we're true it would constitute a crime against humanity not a war crime, unless you count the ETIM terror campaign a 'war'

[–] Juigi@lemm.ee 0 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

Chinese shills don't even read their own posts.

Fucking disappointing to see lemmy to be taken over by ccp sympathizers.

Next people here are gonna explain how students in Tiananmen Massacre deserved what they got.

Cya lemmy it was nice for a time!

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 0 points 1 hour ago

The students in Tiananmen Square did get exactly what they deserved. A safe evacuation after the fighting in the streets surrounding the square got too intense.

[–] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 5 hours ago

LOL when a liberal doesnt know that lemmy was literally created by a group pf "eeviill tankies" in the first place.

[–] KrasMazov@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Oh noes, the ebil gommunist seeseepee tankies!!!1!

How dare they stand for the truth that even the Arab League didn't find China commiting genocide or oppressing the people of Xinjiang and disproving the now abandoned false narrative about Tiananmen Square.

No no no, your views should thoroughly align with the US state department. CHINA IS EBIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 0 points 6 hours ago

Bye, won't be missed

[–] j_overgrens@feddit.nl 0 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

A fabrication? Did you even read that pdf? I quote:

Serious human rights violations have been committed in XUAR in the context of the Government’s application of counter-terrorism and counter-“extremism” strategies. The implementation of these strategies, and associated policies in XUAR has led to interlocking patterns of severe and undue restrictions on a wide range of human rights. These patterns of restrictions are characterized by a discriminatory component, as the underlying acts often directly or indirectly affect Uyghur and other predominantly Muslim communities.

[–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] j_overgrens@feddit.nl 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 59 minutes ago)

No one's said there's not problems and criticisms to be made, but there just isn't a genocide no matter how much your narrative requires one

[–] Devorlon@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)
[–] davel@lemmy.ml 0 points 20 hours ago

It’s true, your screenshot shows no war crimes. You failed at sarcasm.

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 0 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

That has no mention of a war that has China as belligerent, can you specify which war you think these crimes are occurring as part of? and specify them?

[–] Devorlon@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I'm agreeing with you, the CCP hasn't commited any war crimes, just "serious human rights violations"

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Ok, but there is a difference between the two, and no one here said China hasn't committed serious human rights violations, they have and I condemn it like I condemn all serious human right violations including those committed by the US and it's allies, domestically and in the numerous recent and ongoing invasions, wars and conflicts they've started, in addition to their war crimes

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah, not really comparable when it comes to war crimes. If someone wanted to conflate a topic that makes both countries look similarly bad in an honest light, it would be the treatment of ethnic minorities.

[–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 0 points 6 hours ago

the treatment of ethnic minorities

You mean the US having the highest prison population in the world, to the point of 1 in 5 black men over 30 having been to jail at some point of their lives?

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

That would not be an honest light. China actually takes their affirmative action seriously and not just pays lip service to it while continuing to enact genocidal policies like the US still does on the indigenous peoples of the mainland and occupied Hawai'i which has been gentrified and settled to the point of being unlivable for most of the locals.

The claims of China's abuse of ethnic minorities are a scam espoused by the same people profitting off the genocide in Palestine. Anybody who takes the evidence seriously instead of treating accusations as trustworthy because of the volume of them doesn't understand (or chooses to ignore) how the US propaganda machine has always worked.

People still on that "China genocide" bs are about as ridiculous as people claiming Iraq had WMDs into the Obama years. It's a level of gullibility so big that it has to be voluntary.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 0 points 6 hours ago

enact genocidal policies like the US still does on the indigenous peoples of the mainland and occupied Hawai'i which has been gentrified and settled to the point of being unlivable for most of the locals.

And the same has been said about tibet, inner Mongolia, and xinjiang. I mean you can look at Chinas own census data and see that han Chinese are migrating to cities in xinjiang, displacing ethnic minorities to move away from their cultural cities.

The claims of China's abuse of ethnic minorities are a scam espoused by the same people profitting off the genocide in Palestine. Anybody who takes the evidence seriously instead of treating accusations as trustworthy because of the volume of them doesn't understand (or chooses to ignore) how the US propaganda machine has always worked.

You are conflating the accusations of genocide in one region with the accusations of ethnic discrimination. Even in that grey zone article it is conflating the study from some weird neocon group with all investigations into ethnic discrimination in China.

Han chauvinism is an established concept that even Mao took aims to curtail. Something they are still combating considering there has only been one ethnic minority to serve in the central committee in the last 35 years.

An actual criticism that I have about Xi is that he is a bit culturally conservative. The belt and road initiative utilized a lot of han centric language and the current central committee is notably the first committee that has no women serving on it in the last +25 years.

[–] cosecantphi@hexbear.net 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah like wtf is this lmao, apparently "war crime" is now when bad country does bad thing

[–] Aquilae@hexbear.net 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Well Americans are certainly telling Chinese users that their government is committing warcrimes like the meme says

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] underwire212@lemm.ee 0 points 15 hours ago
[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

No bro, the real genocide, the one that doesn't have a single piece of photographic or video evidence, where no probes have found any evidence, and where the allegedly victimized population has seen their standards of living rise enormously and the previously ubiquitous violence has all but stopped.

If the palestine genocide were a real one surely Blinken would have condemned it like he did the one they ~~fabricated~~ saw in Xinjiang.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago

Yeah, that is indeed one of the grab bag of accusations that Americans are hurling.