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What's the 2SL part mean?
Had to google it. Evidently, 2-spirits, (native American tradition of non-binary.) The ever-lengthening acronym keeps growing...
Sexuality is complicated, so apparently is making an acronym that includes everything that's not cis-straight lol
I thought everything else was supposed to be covered under the "Q," but I guess it's important to some groups that they have their own letter. So, that makes the long-form 2SLGBTQIA+ now? Ugh, that does not roll off the tongue.
I feel like the sooner society accepts that sexuality is complex the less letters will need to be added so people feel like they're represented. I'm all for inclusion but I'd rather see a world where 2slgbtq+ is irrelevant and people are just free to be who they want to be, whatever letter that is
Pretty much. At this stage, I don't want anyone to feel left out, but after a certain point, trying to define more points on the spectrum of human gender expression and sexuality gets into diminishing returns. Even with the traditional colours of the rainbow, where does blue end and indigo begin? The labels exist to make it easier for people to talk about things and describe the world around us. Unless there is some specific nuance someone is trying to capture, LGBTQ+ should get the point across with the Q and the +. Technically, I think you could get the point across in most use cases with something more succinct than that, but that seems to be what has been established.
Still, I can totally get that someone can feel left out being lumped into the +, so individual use will and should vary. I still rail against the inefficiencies of common language though. The concept is simple, people who aren't in the big main hetero & cis sections of the spectrum.
This is what I'm hoping for in my lifetime. It's hard to explain but I want healthy sexuality to be so mainstream, and so socially acceptable that it's boring. That it doesn't need to be the focal point of a show or a movie or a book or whatever. That people can just be people and we don't need token characters at all. I want it to be so normal that it's boring.
Amen, when one day sexual preferences are as political as ice cream preferences we will have reached equality.
Q is queer or questioning, depending on who you ask. Everyone not in the listed letters is covered under the +.
You know, I've always wondered if there's any animosity from the other groups since they get two letters but everyone else only gets one...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-spirit?wprov=sfla1
Thanks!