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[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What do you define as propaganda? Anything could be if your definition is too broad.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)
[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I'd define propaganda as misconstruing the truth towards political ends. If it's commercial ends rather than political, it's false advertising. If it's not misconstruing, then it's advertising or public communications. Just to set a baseline.

I can't find what your sources are defining as propaganda from a brief look, let's compare to my definition.

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

it doesn't need to be misconstrued. the best propaganda imho is totally true and in context. spreading it with some kind of political goal is still propaganda.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Cool, I wouldn't call that propaganda, but we can work with that.

Do the Captain America movies have an irl political goal? What would it be?

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I haven't seen them, but I do know they work with the pentagon, so my guess is they aim to legitimize American hegemony and military spending

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I have seen them, and the government is the bad guy, with the overreach of public surveillance being major topic. You'll need to be more specific, but that would probably entail watching them.

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[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (32 children)

From the first one

The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of.

Sounds like it's referring to any marketing or public communications from any company government or individual. I'd qualify that as overly broad.

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