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[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Anyone know of a reasonably priced OLED/QLED, >60", 4k TV without smart features?

I really don't want the spyware and adware that come with newer smart TVs, and I'm willing to pay a bit of a premium for it. I'd also be happy with a unicorn smart TV that doesn't have any of those anti-features.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

What about just not connecting it to the network? Then put a video device on it like Roku or Apple tv or whatever.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

just not connecting it to the network?

Some TVs require connecting to the network to set it up, and I'm concerned TV manufacturers will get more brazen going forward. If there's a company that doesn't do this nonsense, I'd rather reward them for being good instead of working around misfeatures in popular brands.

Roku

Has ads that can be disabled, at least as-of last year. Not sure how long that'll last...

Apple TV

Apple also seems interested in ads.

Any other option will likely degrade to having ads at some point. I could probably get rid of them w/ a PiHole or something, but that could end up being a game of whack-a-mole.

I'll probably end up w/ a Raspberry Pi or something running Kodi or similar, which is really annoying because that's yet another thing I have to self-host just to avoid this stupid obsession with ads.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I know this isn't purely TV-related, but there used to be a secret menu for Roku where you could disable home screen ads. That stopped working for me several months ago. So I recently bought an Onn box (which is basically Android TV, but had as very cluttered UI) and side-loaded one of the open source launchers onto it. It's been a much better experience than Roku, not least because there's are no more home screen ads.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

there used to be a secret menu for Roku where you could disable home screen ads

That's the first link. If it no longer works, I guess Roku isn't an option anymore. 😟

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

I should clarify: the secret menu can still be navigated to and the options there set. But ads now appear regardless. I went back into the menu and verified the options hadn't changed (they hadn't). It's like Roku has gotten wind of the exploit and 'fixed' their OS to ignore those options.

[–] Wildly_Utilize@infosec.pub 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Awesome, I'll check them out. :)

[–] Good_morning@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Yah, as much as I hear people looking for non-smary TVs for this reason, that's the correct answer. Mine is connected for convenience, and I'd rather save every mb of space on my xbox, right now there's occasionally the small ad tucked into the input selection menu, but if it starts showing me full screen ads I'll deny it internet and install streaming services on Xbox.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

I hooked mine up to wifi once to download an update to fix a bug. Then immediately removed the network settings.

The performance on most of these TV apps is terrible anyway. And Samsung has been caught listening to mics before. Baffles me that people would leave these connected.