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Now that everybody has digested somewhat their voting trauma, it is time to reopen the wounds. 😱

The voting procedure for the BVWSC consisted up to now in me simply winging it, but last month, I didn't wing it correctly, and dukkha ensued. First, I got trigger happy and announced a winner when some important members (ahem @walden@sub.wetshaving.social ahem) had not yet voted. In order to prevent this from ever happening again, what I would like to propose is that we formalize a bit more the process, in the sense that there should be some fixed amount of time (48 hours?) for each of the soap nomination thread and the voting thread, and that a winner can be announced only after this time.

Second, there is potentially an issue with the voting procedure and count. What I have done so far is to allot a number of points which is inverse to the rank you proposed. That is, assuming three proposed soaps, the soap ranked first gets 3 points, the soap ranked 2nd get 2 points, and the soap ranked 3rd gets 1 point. Then, I simply add up these points, and announce the winner. This is similar to a Borda count (which I didn't know, but you can read up here and more in detail here. Borda counts are unproblematic as long as every voter ranks every soap - which has not been the case in the last vote, and which may have cost Westman Shaving's Noir the victory. @DaveWave94@sub.wetshaving.social suggested that someone who did not rank all soaps should be counted as attributing some points to the soaps he did not vote for. That is, assuming our example with 3 soaps, someone who ranked only one soap (which therefore gets 3 points) should also be counted as attributing in the end some points to the other two soaps. I see Dave's point, and am sympathetic to it, but I don't know exactly what would be the best formula.

The easiest method in that spirit would be that the unranked soaps get to share the points that could have been, but have not been, attributed (which would make 1.5 points for each remaining soap - which could also be rounded down to 1 point?). Alternatively, we could also require that any voter provide a full ranking. Any opinion on these proposals, or idea or other proposals how to better implement something similar, but better?

I don't have any intrinsic preference, other than I would like to have a method that can be easily implemented in a spreadsheet (by me, without much knowledge of spreadsheets).

Thank you in advance for your input, and if you have any other complaints/proposals/questions about the process or BVWSC more in general, please feel free to do so.

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[–] walden 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

It sounds like using a 3rd party website is a popular idea and will reduce workload for @porkbuttsntaters666@sub.wetshaving.social, but there are some concerns about spoofing votes.

As ridiculous as fake votes for soap sounds, I wouldn't put it past some loser from another instance seeing a voting thread and clicking on it.

Instead of requiring some sort of sign-in, here's my proposition:

  1. We create another community especially for BVWSC Voting. The community will be set to "local only" so users from other instances can not see it.
  2. The announcement posts will still be made in c/wetshaving, but with a link to c/bvwsc so the voting link will be hidden from other users.
  3. We can require usernames for voting and nobody needs to create any new accounts (including whoever makes the poll).
  4. If @djundjila@sub.wetshaving.social decides to vote under my name, I will publicly shame him and remove him as moderator!
[–] djundjila 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If @djundjila@sub.wetshaving.social decides to vote under my name, I will publicly shame him and remove him as moderator!

Harsh but fair. I'll have to impersonate some less powerful member to get lavanille elected.

Otherwise great pragmatic proposal. +1

[–] PorkButtsNTaters666 3 points 3 days ago

I'll have to impersonate some less powerful member to get lavanille elected.

You should try corruption first (in exchange for your BΓΆker 14, I would definitely consider voting for Lavanille)

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