this post was submitted on 17 Jun 2023
0 points (50.0% liked)

World News

32352 readers
412 users here now

News from around the world!

Rules:

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
 

If Ukraine is able to replace or recover damaged vehicles why is Zelensky still asking for more tanks (in Switzerland right now)? I thought the sanctions were going to trigger massive inflation and unrest in the Russian economy and their desire to support the war would disappear. I thought the Russians were out of ammunition last year and now they're bombing relentlessly. I though their morale was so low they were going to capitulate when this attack happened, yet their first main line of defensive trenches hasn't yet been touched. If Ukraine morale is high and Russian morale is low why are Ukrainians surrendering or refusing to fight on the front lines?

Austin told us all that he had high expectations for the counter-offensive two days before the Pentagon leaks revealed there were actually low expectations. Why believe the boy who already cried wolf, especially when his words don't align with reality? There's been too much lying. The war is costing too much in terms of tax payer dollars and Ukrainian lives. This Biden administration is stuck is a sunk cost fallacy and needs to stop.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] andrai@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

More tanks are always good.

The sanctions are working. But in a sense of turning Russia into a bigger NK or Iran. They don't have inflation because they immediately restricted capital exchanges preventing any capital flight. They also increased their federal fund rate by a lot, which will prevent inflation but still hurt their economy.

Russia is suffering from ammunition shortages, which is why they are firing much less compared to the start of the war.

Ukraine made more progress in the last two weeks than Russia did in the last 6 months. It was always gonna be hard. Unlike with the Kharkiw counteroffensive Russia expects it and is dug in having built up defence in depth. It was always gonna be hard, specially in the early days. More like how the Kherson counteroffensive went which took over a month of heavy fighting to get going.

I'm not aware of Ukrainians just surrendering and refusing to fight. To me it looks like they are fighting quite effectively so far.

Lastly, if you are actually worried about the loss of Ukrainian live (which I doubt tbh) than maybe, just maybe you should instead support your Biden administration and encourage them to send more material so that Ukrainians can better defend themselves.

[–] 133arc585@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

if you are actually worried about the loss of Ukrainian live (which I doubt tbh) than maybe, just maybe you should instead support your Biden administration and encourage them to send more material so that Ukrainians can better defend themselves.

If you actually care about the loss of any lives (Ukranian and Russian), then you should not support any action which does not immediately end the war. Providing more ammunition causes more deaths (what is ammunition used for? they aren't shooting trees, they're shooting and killing humans). How can you not see how hypocritical it is to suggest that more arms would lead to less death?

[–] andrai@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If the Russian soldier wants to survive he can just surrender or go home (although he might get shot by their own men).

If the Ukrainian wants to survive, he has to drive the Russians out of his country.

And you are right, I do not care whether the invaders survive or not. They decide to invade their peaceful neighbour to murder and rape the civilian population. Have you all forgotten Bucha already? I have not, and there are hundreds of Buchas in the occupied territories.

Are you seriously telling Ukraine they should just let the Russians genocide and rape them in peace instead of fighting for their survival? That's a sickening take.

[–] 133arc585@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

If the Russian soldier wants to survive he can just surrender or go home (although he might get shot by their own men).

If the Ukrainian wants to survive, he has to drive the Russians out of his country.

This is nonsense. Russia has not set out to kill every Ukranian. If the Ukranians stopped fighting back, Russia wouldn't kill them all, they'd stop killing them in fact. I don't understand how you think this is one-sided. As long as Ukraine is fighting back, they're contributing to the loss of their own lives.

Are you seriously telling Ukraine they should just let the Russians genocide and rape them

Again, you're acting like the goal is to genocide the Ukranian people. There's literally nothing to indicate this.

I'll say it once more simply, but I doubt you care about logical consistency: Both Ukraine and Russia can end this war by stopping putting anything in to continuing it; as long as a party is continuing, and not stopping the war, that party is in part responsible for the loss of more human lives.