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[โ€“] r1veRRR@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Considered innocent, by the state organs. Considered innocent, in how the state treats them. NOT EVER AT ALL PROVEN innocent by the courts.

Courts are not and have never been concerned about proving innocence. All they care about is guilty or not guilty. Not guilty could mean innocent, but again, the courts don't care about that.

[โ€“] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

What I'm saying is that the basic social contract used to be that you would be considered innocent until proven guilty by your peers. If we abandon we mess with the foundations of society at our own peril.