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An actual quote I saw today posted on Twitter: "Florida is a conservative Christian state, and they voted against murdering unborn babies. The democratic process is complete. They can leave if they want to do that." There's a lot to unpack there. I also got into an argument with the guy who posted it, who claimed somehow that it's not ok for Federal government to regulate Women, but if states wants to do it then it's ok, and they should just leave to another state then. like.. wow. America is a strange place

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 45 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

57% of Floridians voted in favor of abortion rights.

[–] Buttflapper@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

57% If Floridians voted in favor of abortion rights.

One small correction: 57% of the people who voted, voted in favor. Florida has approximately 22 million people as of the last census, with about 17.732 million over the age of 18. Here are the vote counts:

No: 4,547,767 (42.8%) Yes: 6,068,933 (57.2%) This means about 7.115 million people in Florida did not vote, so approximately 40.1% of the adult population voted. Truly wild to see.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that people who cannot be bothered to vote shouldn't really count.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago

Surprisingly enough, they don't count!

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

22million people who are eligible to vote? I want to know if that's everyone who lives in Florida (man women, children, citizens, non-citizens etc), or just eligible voters.

[–] Buttflapper@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I updated my comment, initially I had the wrong figure. I went back to the US Census website, and looked again. Then, I took the number who are over 18 years of age only, and subtracted that out.

[–] shottymcb@lemm.ee 6 points 2 weeks ago

Your updated number is still off by over a million. Not everyone over the age of 18 is eligible to vote. Not that it changes the point much, but you want to look for eligible voters vs over 18.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I did after the update. Their comment doesn't account for people who are old enough to vote/and counted in the census but still are not eligible voters. 78.76 percent of eligible voters voted. The total number of people who voted is 10,999,265 out of a total number of eligible voters 13,949,168.

This is important context that was missing from both the original comment and the edited comment.

57 percent of the people who voted voted for abortion rights. That's 6,269,581 voters. Since the bar for a measure to pass in Florida is 60 percent, we know that if the other 2,949,903 people had voted at all and they'd voted in favor that would have passed the abortion rights initiatives on the ballot. In fact the abortion rights initiative only needed 109,927 more votes in order to pass. It was extremely close to passing.

https://floridaelectionwatch.gov/CountyReportingStatus

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

They voted for abortion rights at the state level, then voted in a Senator, two Representatives, and Trump into office so they can pass a national abortion ban that will apply to their state.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

In some other states yes, but the abortion protection in Florida failed to pass, leaving their "6-week" (2 weeks from detectability) ban in place.

(Edit: on my phone, didn't see you were replying such that your "they" refers to the 57% of those who voted, which was insufficient to pass the amendment.)

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My point is that more than half voted for abortion rights and more than half voted for the anti abortion candidates.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

It's probably because when they see 'R' next to a candidate's name, they can't help but choose that.