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[–] gazter@aussie.zone 49 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Jesus fucking Christ... Is this the reality people in the US are living? I can't comprehend the environment that would lead to someone giving this advice.

[–] plzExplainNdetail@slrpnk.net 41 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yes it's a reality and their advice is honestly solid. Here's some maps/statistics showing gun violence in the US in 2024 from the gun violence archives.. If you look at their dropdown menu, there's a tab specifically for seeing just the last 72 hours that is currently 10 pages long. If you're looking for reasoning on how that environment comes to be, you might have a read of Parable of the Sower by Octavia Butler.. You can find free pdf versions with a quick internet search. There's also a second book called Parable of the Talents.

[–] gazter@aussie.zone 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Thanks for an honest and informative reply.

I guess I'm lucky in that I'm not particularly tied down anywhere. If I found myself in that situation, I'd just leave. A visa to a more developed, civilised country like Thailand or Chile isn't that hard to get, right?

Or is leaving equivalent to 'letting them win'?

[–] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 22 points 2 weeks ago

Leaving being "letting them win" is something only the most privileged believe. It doesn't matter, your life comes first.

[–] Zirconium@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Read parable of the sower and talents by Octavia butler like 2 months ago. Can't believe we might end up like that

[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 28 points 3 weeks ago

when half the population wants you dead, this is the type of thing that happens

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

“Shoot through the fake news”

They’ve been going at stochastic terrorism for a while now, so no if I was trans or black or a woman or gay or Mexican or Haitian I would absolutely put a 1911 on my belt cause the intent to harm has already been declared.

[–] KaRunChiy@fedia.io 12 points 2 weeks ago

I often have to mask even the slight "gay" tinge out of my voice where I live because even that would draw scrutiny, I have absolutely no doubts that active conservative mercenaries would have it out for us in this godless state. As horrible as it is already, it will only get worse from here, and many are preparing to at least protect their own lives no matter what.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The entire US government has just been handed over to open fascists that state that they want to erase LGBTQ+ and non-christian people from the country. The US system wasn't parliamentary, where there can be snap elections, etc. The president nominates candidates for lifetime appointments to the courts. The legislature confirms them.

Even if the fascists don't do what they say they want to, the courts are gone for at least a generation. They are now there to rubber stamp anything that a theofascist wants. The US Supreme Court has already signaled that they may take up the right to marry people of different ethnic backgrounds and have already decided that a president is a king.

So, yeah. The most optimistic scenarios in the US are ones where trans people, LGBTQ+, and ethnic minorities are oppressed, and the people have no political power as the courts will just overrule any outcome that they don't want.

Things are going to get ugly, likely very quickly.

[–] gazter@aussie.zone 3 points 2 weeks ago

Wow. Yep, time to leave, people.