this post was submitted on 05 Nov 2024
501 points (99.0% liked)

Technology

59566 readers
3555 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] trespasser69@lemmy.world 62 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Intel's market cap: 98b $

AMD's market cap: 230b $

[–] Shadywack@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What the fuck??? Insert Jumanji meme "What year is it?"

Numbers check out too. Wintel, slayed, and we didn't even notice.

[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The whole ring -3 / MINIX business a while back put a serious amount of FUD into the market and Intel has been on the wane ever since.

This is not necessarily unfounded FUD either. MINIX is literally there, lurking inside all modern Intel processors, waiting to be hacked by the enterprising ne'er-do-well. (NB: This is not to say that there aren't ways to do similar things to AMD chips, only that MINIX is not present in them, and it's theoretically a lot more difficult.)

Then bear in mind that MINIX was invented by Andrew Tanenbaum, someone Linus Torvalds has had disagreements with in the past (heck, Linux might not exist if not for MINIX and Linus' dislike of the way Tanenbaum went about it), and so there's an implicit bias against MINIX in the data-centre world, where Linux is far more present than it is on the desktop.

Thus, if you're a hypothetical IT manager and you're going to buy a processor for your data-centre server, you're ever so slightly more likely to go for AMD.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Note that Linus' disagreement was largely over design decisions and microkernel stuff. Linus actually respects Tanenbaum a great deal. Tanenbaum's book on operating systems is a CS classic and is a direct influence on the young Linus.

[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 1 points 2 weeks ago

Pretty sure my own education had a Tanenbaum book in amongst it, from which I learned a number of things. In another world, one where my brain isn't its own worst enemy, I could well be one of those IT managers. There the FUD would have been the main factor in my decision. Probably. Because I'm not sure I'd be completely happy if it was a Linux buried in the chipset either. Especially one largely outside my control.

[–] Laser@feddit.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

I'd guess this is less about MINIX vs. Linux and more about ultimately having 0 control over or insight into it.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Their P/E is 125

One fucking hundred and twenty five.

That's more than twice Nvidia. It's completely disconnected from reality.