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I guess it's probably as hard as let's say getting a permit to travel to western country for a citizen of socialist Ukrainian SSR, but even if they were literally welded to place it would still be nowhere near as bad as in Ukraine where the main problem is not being unable to leave but getting kidnapped and thrown into artillery fire. Again not in the slightest similar thing.
Well, I wasn't saying that NK kidnaps and massacres its citizens like Zelensky's regime does, I was referring to not being able to leave the country, and in that regard the regimes seems similar to me.
You wrote this, context is rather clear:
But what is the contradiction here? :)
In my mind North Korea associates with people being unable to leave it (which you don't deny), Zelensky did the same to Ukraine, therefore the analogy.
You are comparing a western nazi puppet who has to be forcibly stopped from comitting genocide with a communist country desperately defending themselves from west for 80 years and being a victim of genocide. Those are polar opposites even if they have some things in common, like i bet people in both countries also drink water.
There can be no justification for mass forbidding people to leave the country.
This is exactly the same justification Zelensky is using. Both are wrong.
What no historical materialism does to a mfer.
Socialist countries in Europe also did restricted the freedom of travel and turned out for a good reason, to not be destroyed. Ukraine does this for a reason to murder its own people. You can't even get a difference so basic, you should really stop.
Well, it seems that we won't come to an agreement here.
As I said, for me mass forbidding people to leave the country is unjustifiable. If some regime does it, whatever the reason, it deserves to be destroyed, and I wholeheartedly support the destruction of that regime. I wouldn't like to live under such a regime and wouldn't wish it for other people.
And yeah, I'm not going to stop caring about mine and other people's freedom :)