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[–] jlou@mastodon.social 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"This sentence contains 2 words" is a sensible sentence. It has 5 words, so what the sentence says is false.

The self-reference in the sentence is similar to that of the Liar's paradox. Cousins of that paradox have been used to prove major limitative results in mathematical logic such as

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarski%27s_undefinability_theorem

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gödel%27s_incompleteness_theorems

In usual logic, a false sentence implies every sentence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Material_conditional

Also, if sentence P is false, then "P is false" is true

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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"J Lou has stopped beating their spouse."

If this sentence is true, it means you used to beat your spouse. If it is false, it means that you currently beat your spouse. Therefore, it proves that you are married and at some point in time you beat your spouse.

[–] jlou@mastodon.social 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That sentence has a presupposition. The sentence I used can be fully formalized in a logic with predicates for knowledge of an entity and truth

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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

The sentence I used

Also has a presupposition.