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[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Not all of the US is hell; I hear the future New California Republic (once they balkanize, expect it within our lifetimes) is nice.

[–] Dubious_Fart@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah, but then they'll be back in the Mojave trying to take Hoover dam.

And the Mojave? Whew.. Thats enough to make anyone wish for a nuclear winter.

[–] Neato@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is no chance of balkinzation or secession of California unless the entire USA falls or splits. CA is the 5th largest economy in the world. That amount of wealth would never be allowed to leave. It'd make the entire South seceding look like a trial run.

Not that they'd really try without a dissolution of the Constitution first. They'd probably just start passing laws that ignore the Constitution and federal laws and then dare the fed to intervene. Would still need a massively weaker fed, though.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

unless the entire USA falls or splits

That would be what balkanization means.

I agree that they'd never be allowed to seceed, and I don't think they'd ever try. But America is a burning building; eventually it will collapse

[–] AndyLikesCandy@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People keep saying this. They've been saying this for decades. Other countries keep having bigger problems first, I think it's just because you see all of America's dirty laundry while virtually all other countries governments take more steps to control the flow of information.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

You had a failed right-wing insurrection a few years ago, and the man they wanted to put in charge still isn't behind bars. America is fucked

[–] MaShinKotoKai@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, I don't understand this. What does this mean?

[–] MrMonkey@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] MaShinKotoKai@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Good luck with your no water.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You realize California is on the ocean, right? Desalination is a solvable engineering problem, and one that becomes more viable the worse things get. Especially if they're no longer b holden to the Nuclear Regulatory Commission

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Desalination can provide drinking water, but you aren't going to irrigate crops with desalination.

[–] fearout@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I googled it and it looks like ~80% of their water comes from within the state, and the rest mostly comes from Colorado, and I guess those guys wouldn’t object to a water deal even in case of secession. Not sure if secession is even possible in US though.

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

I'd be much happier selling our water to California than to the Saudis growing alfalfa in the desert.