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We are constantly told that solutions to some of the greatest challenges facing poor and working class people in the U.S. do not exist. Meanwhile, billions taxpayer dollars are being used to fund the genocide of Palestinians.

That very money could have ended homelessness in the United States.

Money for our needs, not the U.S.-Israeli war machine!

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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Also, states “flip”, surprising even experts.

Everyone also knows that states flip.

Do you understand how incredibly privileged your stance is?

Are the undecided Palestinian-American voters whose families and friends are being slaughtered by the current administration also incredibly privileged?

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io -4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

One reason for some, that I think you can easily understand, is that unless you live in a swing state, it costs nothing to vote left of genocide.

Everyone also knows that states flip.

Pick a lane.

There is no good solution to the problem we’re currently facing - at least, not one that’s legally available to us right now. I’m simply advocating for the option that does less damage.

American women, immigrants, and minorities are particularly in danger. That includes Palestinian-Americans. They have the especially unpleasant choice of voting for a candidate who supports genocide, voting for another candidate who also supports genocide and has promised to discriminate against them, or boycotting the election/voting 3rd party, which for them is effectively the same as option #2.

Let’s imagine that voting 3rd party does actually change things for the better. How much will that matter to the Palestinian-Americans who are illegally deported and get sent home to die? What about the women who will die because of complications during pregnancy? What about the further erosion of civil rights in this country? Will those precious lessons that Democrats may learn ever even matter? We could ALL become politically irrelevant punching bags.

I don’t understand how those concerns can be so easily dismissed.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

Pick a lane.

That’s fair. It’s not entirely without risk, and polling isn’t magic. The deeper $COLOR a state is, the less risky, and if it’s deep enough it approaches nil. Wyoming isn’t going to pick Harris and D.C. isn’t going to pick Trump.

This was a description of one reason that some people are voting third party. It’s not comprehensive by any means, and I don’t even know if it’s a predominant reason people abstain or vote third party.