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Any excuse to not work on Winds of Winter, huh George? Of course, I’d probably call it quits to if I’d be relegated to little more than a fan fic writer of my own story.
At this point, because I've seen the show, I'd have to go back and re-read all the books, to even start Winds of Winter. It's all so mashed together in my head, I don't remember the real story very well.
I've also accepted that he isn't even going to finish the books.
One day it will be Brandon Sanderson who finishes. He’s probably already done with it and just waiting on GRRM to visit Valhalla.
Please stop trying to force Sanderson to write a series his style would be horrible at and that he would not enjoy finishing.
Joe Abercrombie and Robin Hobb are still alive, among plenty of other excellent grimdark fantasy authors, if you must insist on naming a successor.
I agree with Abercrombie and I don’t actually really care for Sanderson all that much. Sanderson is a prolific writer though, and his speed is in direct opposition to GRRM’s long droughts between books. It would be a bit less funny if I was being serious.
At the end of the books, John Snow is still dead.
The whole series is just what Bran sees but is unable to communicate with anyone as he's staring into a snowglobe after sustaining debilitating injuries from being pushed off the window.
It was all just a dream
Dude has written himself into three different corners and likely doesn't see a (satisfying) way to wrap it up in two books, so he's decided to give up. If the rumors are true and he gave B&B the elevator pitch version of his ending, he may be hemming hawing about how much to course correct from their version. His Bran running Westeros could certainly come into being more elegantly than the show's, but jeez it would be very weird in its own way.
So I never read through all the books, but I've listened to/read bits and pieces across the first few. Would you mind sharing what you mean by writing himself into 3 corners, and what those 3 corners are? I've watched a bunch of videos with lore explanations and obviously seen the HBO adaptation so spoilers aren't something I'm worried about.
I was being glib about how many corners, and it's been years and years since I read the books. That said, what I've heard is that he doesn't fully outline the story first, and follows it where his imagination leads him (to a certain extent. he's obviously a successful novelist). But it has meant that there are a LOT of threads left to trim or weave together and only two (theoretically) books left to do it. Dany is still stuck in the east with a lot of important shit to do, the Dorne stuff and the fake Targaryen have to find some reason to be so prominent, the white walkers were handled a bit haphazardly in the show and show little sign of being integrated into the books overarching plot YET. He still has to decide how (and "if" I suppose) he wants to bring Jon back, whether R+L=J is still the way he wants to go with that, to say nothing of how he will actually end the thing... There are just a lot of spinning plates, and I can imagine he doesn't want to let any drop but may have to if he actually wants to finish this story in no more than 3000 pages (and even that will be a lot)
Thanks for the response! Sounds about right from what little I remember about all the lore and stuff lol
Winds of Winter has literally nothing to do with the strike because it's a book. He's perfectly okay to write for Elden Ring 2, for that matter.
If anything, the strike should be good news for the people who still care about asoiaf because now George can't spend all his time writing five different pilots for the various projects that are all going to get cancelled or promote his tv shows on conventions.
The people that still care about ASOIAF know that George doesn't need an excuse to stagnate progress on new books. He could have all the time in the world and he's still just throw all his work into the garbage and start over.
IDK, what if he has a deal for Winds of Winter with HBO? He'd then be a writer, working for the studios that the WGA is striking against.
That's not how this works at all. I honestly don't know how to explain to you that tv shows and books are different things without sounding like an extremely condescending asshole, so I won't even try.
The strike rules come from the union, not from the greedy capitalists trying to fuck over the writers. There's absolutely no reason for union to have a rule forbidding people from writing books. Especially since HBO can't even adapt the book into the TV show, anyway. GoT is over, they're not going to reboot season 5 or 6 or 7 or 8 to show us the WoW adaptation.
If you take a minute to read what he wrote, he said he's writing for Winds of Winter nearly every day.
I see we're continuing the Reddit tradition of not actually reading the source...
He says a lot of things. Many of those things are, charitably, massive exaggerations. Keep in mind that if he’d written even at the pace of about 100 words a day that Winds of Winter would be out already. That’s not even two of the replies you’re reading now. Don’t get me wrong, GRRM doesn’t owe me anything. But jokes about his effort are entirely fair.
It just didn't make sense. "I'm writing every day" "Haha, just an excuse to not write!"
Hilarious.
I'll take the L and move on, but you can't convince me their comment was any good.