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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 49 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

this could actually work out

No it won't, Elon Next year Musk has promised Fully autonomous driving next year since 2016. He has sold his cars with subscriptions for FSD for years, despite it doesn't work. It's even illegal to call it FSD now, so Tesla has to call it assisted FSD, which is an oxymoron.

With this move, Enron Musk will more likely ensure the continued decline of Tesla. The Cybercab most likely will not be a moneymaker, and the focus on developing it, will detract from Tesla developing much needed new EV models, for a market with increasing competition.

Tesla is far from #1 in developing autonomous driving, so the chances are very slim that they would be even close to be first to market.

AFAIK this is pretty much the current rank:
-1 Waymo (Google)
-2 Mercedes
-3 Mobil Eye
-4 GM (Cruise)
-5 Baidu
-6 Tesla

Possibly Nissan-Renault (WeRide) and Nvidia can match Tesla too.

Notice that Tesla used MobilEye originally up to 2016, but MobilEye ended the partnership after a Tesla model S had a fatal crash. I suspect the irresponsible claims implementation and practices by Elon Musk were too much.

Elon Musk is insane and a con man, to believe anything he claims about the future of his companies is naive.

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Because Musk has a weird obsession that everything needs to work with just cameras, and no other sensors can help. While it might work someday in the far future with proper AGI (e.g Delamain from Cyberpunk 2077), until then it's a pretty hopeless endeavour.

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The problem is computer vision has a LONG way to go before it’s truly on par with human eyesight. Musk loves to crow how cameras are sufficient since we use our eyes to drive.

The thing is, eyes have special neural circuits that detect motion. They essentially filter out unnecessary information and send just the motion details to the brain. This prevents the brain from being overloaded with every detail the eye constantly sees.

And being overloaded with everything is exactly what computer vision currently does. It’s just a stream of images that the computer must analyze completely. So it’s working exactly opposite to how the eye & brain works.

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

Long way, but it's not an impossible task, as at the core the eye is nothing but a bunch of light sensors that spit out a result, we just need to figure out how to calculate that result ourselves. Motion amplification could be one solution given enough computing power to do it in real time, for example.

But we agree, safe and accurate camera based self driving isn't going to happen in a long, long time.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I'm not sure the approach Elon Musk has to developing self driving will ever work.
From what I've heard about how they "teach" the AI, it probably won't, because loading massive amounts of new data is rewarded, but there is no proper qualitative control.

Man, how did Mobil Eye not just tack an “s” on the end? The pun is right there, and it’s frankly excellent and super topical to what they’re trying to do.