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I suspect that this is the direct result of AI generated content just overwhelming any real content.

I tried ddg, google, bing, quant, and none of them really help me find information I want these days.

Perplexity seems to work but I don't like the idea of AI giving me "facts" since they are mostly based on other AI posts

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[–] hannesh93@feddit.org 57 points 20 hours ago (7 children)

I'm very happy with kagi at the moment. Just crossed one year using it as my main search engine last week and don't see why I would go back.

[–] tk1ll3r@discuss.tchncs.de 35 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Same. Using Kagi feels like surfing the old web. The first thing I did was block all Pinterest results. That alone made every search golden. πŸ˜‚

[–] ownsauce@lemmy.world 18 points 19 hours ago

I hate Pinterest lol, best thing about Kagi is being able to block whole sites and it remembers your preferences. I may come back to Kagi but I didn't feel like funding their AI features development. Now Im using Searx and 4get cause they're free.

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 12 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

You're not the only one. They have a leaderboard and the top 7 results are various Pinterest domains.

[–] ownsauce@lemmy.world 15 points 16 hours ago

Leaderboard here for anyone curious

Yep everyone blocking Pinterest.

Also the most prioritized website is Wikipedia. Guess everyone wants facts in the the age of hallucinatory AI

[–] Damage@feddit.it 1 points 12 hours ago

I never got Pinterest results on Kagi to begin with

[–] MTK@lemmy.world 27 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

Having to signup and login to a search engines sounds like an annoying hassle

[–] aMockTie@lemmy.world 17 points 20 hours ago

It's a very minor annoyance and well worth it in my opinion.

I was searching for a book quote for over a year. I tried every search engine, tried changing the terms, checking back several times every few weeks or so, but couldn't find anything even close. I tried kagi and it was literally the very first result on my very first search.

I haven't looked back and have never had an issue finding what I'm searching for since.

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 10 points 19 hours ago

You pay instead of seeing ads, so they need the account. Remembers you, though, so you just login once. Plus they have a solution for incognito/private windows too.

I really like it, has some cool features.

[–] hannesh93@feddit.org 6 points 19 hours ago

You can create a search-link that includes your token so you can also use it in incognito or if you are logged out for some reason.

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@lemmy.today 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Signing up and logging in isn't a problem imo. I wouldn't even mind if I had to pay for searches, but I'm not going to make it a subscription service. Unless they add an option to do something like buy 1000 searches that never expire, its not something I'd considered. I do think they beat out competitors like google with their results pretty consistently though based on the trial.

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 14 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not gonna subscription my heated car seats but search is a service that costs an ongoing amount to provide. The subscription isn't significant, it's $5 a month for 300 searches (or $10 for unlimited).

I know we've been conditioned to expect search for free, but if we want to get away from the "the user is the product" model then I think it's a good thing to have a subscription to a service that has ongoing costs to provide.

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@lemmy.today 14 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Up to 300 searches. I'm not asking for free. Just for it to not be a subscription. Just sell me 300 searches.

[–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Yes but then how do they get that sweet sweet recurring revenue

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@lemmy.today 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

By having a good product, so people want to use it and need to top-up on new searches regularly as a result?

[–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 0 points 18 hours ago

Hmm, perhaps. But…recurring revenue sure is easier than…whatever you said.

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 3 points 19 hours ago

Ah right, I get you. I wonder if they have considered this. Pretty sure their free/demo tier is 100 searches not confined to a time period so presumably the platform could handle that model.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

My blocks

Edit: hm. I seem to have replied to the wrong comment.

[–] kalleboo@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

I've been using Kagi for about a month now and it's been working well for me

[–] jagermo@feddit.org 8 points 19 hours ago

Same. Even the ai stuff is helpful instead of annyoing.

[–] illi@lemm.ee 4 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

I don't remember any specifics, but I think I heard there were some privacy concerns?

Then again, there seem to be privacy concerns about pretty much anything so might not be that bad...

[–] blurg@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] illi@lemm.ee 1 points 6 hours ago

It was not even the emails. I tried to duckgo it and only found this controversy (which was new to me). What I saw was a specific qute, possibly on topic of privacy or something adjecent which just made me go "nope!"

[–] gpopides@lemmy.world 9 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

The concerns are about the credit card you use to pay.

The argument is that they can associate the card with your searches.

As far as I know they don't keep search data. I'm personally happy with them

[–] robber@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 hours ago

That's what's kept me from using it, although I very much like the idea of paying for a good service. I would love to see them figure out a way to avoid accounts.

[–] illi@lemm.ee 7 points 17 hours ago

I think this might be it. There were also some statements by the CEO I think which didn't exactly inspire confidencenin their company - but again, I don't remember the details unfortunately

[–] majestictechie@lemmy.fosshost.com 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Never heard any issues with Privacy, but I've heard issues about them using Brave search Results as part of their results.

[–] Zeoic@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

If i remember right, it wasn't just using brave, but including a referral id in brave searches. It wasn't intended, and they fixed it, so all good with me.