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[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 81 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Because Google is trying to turn the internet into a walled garden where only people with Chrome can visit the majority of websites.

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 20 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I've been been a full time Firefox user for three years now. Haven't experience a single problem like that. Haven't really experienced any problem at all to be honest

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Unfortunately that has not been the case for me. Some sites for buying concert tickets don't seem to like Firefox.

I've had problems with several Microsoft sites we use internally for work ever since Edge went to Chrome.

It's not Firefox's fault. Mozilla is abiding by web standards.

[–] Ghoelian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 month ago

If you find any websites that don't work with firefox, you should report them to Mozilla. Firefox has a list of known bad websites, and has fixes for them, usually just a user agent override.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Your past experiences with Firefox are irrelevant because we're talking about the future.

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I know. My experience with Chrome used to be good too. And we all know what's up now.

If Firefox fucks up, I'm fine with abandoning ship and moving on to the next thing. I'm not sure what that would be, but I'm sure I'll figure that out once we get there.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That's the problem. Google is working so that there's not going to be a next thing.

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That is concerning, but Internet Explorer used to be the only option too. Of course things are different now, but I have faith (for lack of anything else).

That was for a different reason, though. That was Microsoft forcing you to use their software on something you owned. A website can say, "you have to use chrome to access our site," and that's not antitrust behavior on the part of Google.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

There always is a next thing. It's called Gemini and it has the problem of guys like Google fixed by having a non-extensible standard.

I'm not joking, too - sometimes even wide masses become practical and just want "no bullshit" Internet publishing. Which Gemini delivers.

But - would be interesting to have something like Gemini, but serverless.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Thats the thing.

There is basically no alternative. Firefox exists on the mercy of google which is its biggest donor.

There are very few attempts at a truly open source browser and neither can tackle the biggest problem, which is google pushing websites to adopt their standards, weaponizing ad income to guarantee compliance.

Currently more then 80% of internet users have a chromium browser while websites creation for many entities is often outsourced out of lack of own IT knowledge. When firefox dies there will be no economic insensitive to build sites accessible by anything but chromium.

Low key i wish this fires back into anarchy. I hate the corporate web and the only sites i like to see are those free of economic insensitive and all in on an ethical free digital world.

[–] shasta@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago
[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

try changing your user-agent to mock chrome in Firefox while you visit YouTube.

you should see a drastic difference in UX.

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I tried YouTube in Chrome on desktop (for about 2 minutes) and I didn't notice any difference. I'll just keep using NewPipe on my phone though.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

it takes a whole 10 extra seconds for the interface to be usable for me in Firefox. but not when I spoof the user-agent as chrome.

at least that's how it was about 4 months ago.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

NewPipe exclusively. YouTube has been unusable long before I fully moved back to FireFox.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 month ago

Smart choice. YouTube has been fucking Firefox users for a while now. Implementing stuff like a 5s wait to load videos.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Maybe part of the monopoly ruling will have chrome taken away from them.