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[–] Martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Shouldn't they be capable of detecting where the connection is going and disconnect/block it for specific regions or something? I have no clue how any of that stuff works but this one thing feels like it should be the case.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They do, but Ukraine uses Starlink, so they can't really disable usage entirely in the contested areas. They could disable the individual terminals, but that would require knowing which ones the Russians were using in the first place.

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well, given that they have access to Internet via starlink, all they would have to do is set up a website and list the IDs, then block everything that's not there.

They got me shipment? Add them to the list? No longer own the device? Remove it.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The problem is that not all of those terminals are being purchased by Ukraine, or supplied through official channels. There are tons of equipment being donated from third parties not directly affiliated, including Starlink terminals.

That's great if the Ukraine military were the only users in the region, but they aren't. Regular Starlink service is available in the country, outside military use. Even though the Ukraine military is using it, Starlink is not designed to be a military network. It is a civilian network that just happens to be available and extremely useful in this case, even with the Russian attempts to interfere with signals in the region.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

So they would have to have a white-list for Ukraine and a process for getting on the white-list. That doesn't seem that complicated. Somewhat intensive, sure, but a very simple solution. And I would think militarily advantageous equipment would be more controlled in a war zone than normal.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The Starlink probably only works once the drone enters Ukraine. Disabling Starlink in that area would cut off the Ukrainian military too. The internet traffic could easily be routed through a VPN in another country, so blocking Russian IP addresses on Starlink wouldn't work either.

[–] IllNess@infosec.pub 8 points 1 week ago

If Starlink is the internet provider, aren't they providing the IP address? If they are how would a VPN trick Starlink since the equipment has to connect to Starlink first?

[–] Martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

Whitelist/allowlist for this region comes to my mind. But probably some other specific problems would arise from this too. Hmm...