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The overuse of death tropes was exactly why I left.
Infinity War
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hit me with a double whammy. It pulled the curtain to show that it was actually part one of a two parter. Also, it pulled the “death is reversible” card - both the death and the immediate promise of reversal - on half the galaxy’s population.I feel like even if a comic got away with such things, it’s almost better to ask if the movies are a time to revisit those tropes.
They did kill off Iron Man, Captain America, and Black Widow though. Also, wasn’t it known beforehand that it was a 2 parter?
You’re forgetting Loki. Don’t worry, he’s okay though! And Vision. Don’t worry, he’s back for Wandavision!
And, even with Black Widow dead, thankfully they can make a prequel movie!
Just to age myself a bit: One thing that I really liked about Aeris’ death in FF7 is: There’s no dying speech. There’s no ghostly message from beyond the grave. You don’t even really get to see her face in wistful memories. Everything about that character is completely ”ended” from the media the moment Sephiroth strikes her. Post-launch media tended to ruin this, but at the time it was an important treatment of death to make it impactful.
We all know magic like prequels, time travel, Lazarus pits, cloning, etc, can bring back dead people. That usually misses the point because death in media is usually meant to hold an emotional power that relates to its certainty - it’s not specifically reliant on logic.
Another death that was so “final” that has always stuck out to me was in the terminator show, “the Sarah Connor chronicles” when Reese, one of the 3 main characters, just gets shot in the back as the characters are all making their escape from a regular terminator situation. The other characters look back but have to keep running because otherwise they will get shot too, and ……that’s it. He’s dead. No speech, no drawn out death scene, no elaborate over the top death with foreshadowing - he just gets shot and he’s dead.