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More than a dozen former Ronald Reagan staff members have joined dozens of other Republican figures endorsing the Democratic nominee and vice-president, Kamala Harris, saying their support was “less about supporting the Democratic party and more about our resounding support for democracy”.

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Right, his endorsement doesn't help. That's my point? Liberals shouldn't be cheering because Reaganites endorsed Harris.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Who said Liberals were cheering? This is aimed at disenfranchised conservatives.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Do you think conservatives read The Guardian? This is for internal consumption, to make liberals think "wow even Reaganites are on our side, we must be doing something right!"

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

So you’re critical of The Guardian then? Do you believe they should have left that story out based on their reader demographic?

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No? I'm critical of Harris accepting the endorsement of ghouls.

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

As far as I can tell, The Harris/Walz campaign hasn't officially responded to this endorsement. Are you getting mad about stuff that hasn't even happened?

Believe it or not, the Harris/Walz campaign doesn't orchestrate endorsements. Anyone can endorse a candidate with or without that candidate's knowledge, permission, or acknowledgement.

Harris may be getting the endorsement of old-school/moderate Republicans, but Trump has the endorsement of extremist/far-right Republicans and Neo-Nazis.

If you can't pick a side here, that's entirely your own moral failure.

[–] CooperRedArmyDog@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

both sides are Fasistic, and engage in class colaberation. If I look at the endorsements for haris coming from the right, there are people I would not want to even agree on what pizza topping is best with, let alone who should run a country.

Second your right, anyone can, however the canidates can also reject their endorsement, and tell them to shove it where the sun don't shine, they have not done that, and that is damning.

3rd ... REAGON AND CHENEY ARE MODERATE NOW... do you not see how abserd you are talking? they are not moderates

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

Her silence is damning.

[–] CooperRedArmyDog@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

No one said that. maybe they should have been crtitical of her not disavoying it

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee -2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

The Guardian is a newspaper. They are just covering the news.

Other outlets are covering this also, including conservative ones.

You are way too eager to find a conspiracy here... I promise you, this British newspaper isn't run by and for American Democrats.

[–] CooperRedArmyDog@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

no one is saying that is, but what queermunist is doing that you are failing to do is annilise the bias of the source, and consider the reasons for why they wrote something and the way they wrote it ... this is basic media literacy

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

There's no conspiracy? This is just liberals telling other liberals about the "good news"

[–] CooperRedArmyDog@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

The liberals cheering is what told me the liberals where cheering. I mean ... Haris even gloated that Ronald Reagon himself would vote for her.

as for disenfranchised conservitives, this is a group that does not exist, like both halvs of the uniparty pander to the conservitive.

[–] anarcho_blinkenist@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"disenfranchised conservatives" he says

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I live in NY. It’s a blue state with ~3M Republicans. Most of the ones I know are only in it for financial reasons (large portfolios, business owners, etc.). They voted for Trump in his first term, and are very reluctant to vote for him again. There are more of them than you think.

[–] anarcho_blinkenist@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

that is not what "disenfranchised" means at all. These people are business owners with large portfolios?? They are objectively some of the most enfranchised people in the country. They're literally sitting on their thumbs in their bathtubs of money deciding which genocidaire would be better for their wallets? How is this a disenfranchised population? This is objectively the opposite. Fuck them.

Anyone catering to these very enfranchised sociopaths for votes, rather than to (and while actively repressing and brow-beating) those who are demanding an end to the bipartisan US-financed and US-armed genocide in Palestine, and rather than to the huge portion of actual left-wing voters and poor working class voters who are moving to 3rd parties or among the 35-50% who have stopped voting because of how actually disenfranchised and abandoned by this imperialist-corporate-conglomerate pretending to be two different parties they are


anyone catering to the former group instead of the latter two groups is my enemy