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[–] refalo@programming.dev 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

China bans encryption

Most confidently wrong statement I have read all year.

[–] devfuuu@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Wait until people find out america bans certain cryptographic things to help them out.

[–] JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

As an american, the amount of people who refuse to accept that American Propaganda exists is staggering. I had an immediate reaction to seeing "China is good though" and I have no way of knowing if it's justified because I've been my told my entire life that China is an evil shithole by American propaganda.

To take it a step further and say "America doesn't have your best interest at heart" is deeply unsettling to the vast majority of Americans who blindly hand away their freedoms in the name of Freedom. Wait until people find out that our country is just like all the ones we're taught to hate

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Of course China uses encryption. So an obtuse, direct reading of that statement allows you, correctly, to say the commenter is wrong.

But what the commenter probably meant was “China bans the use of encryption that prevents the Chinese state from reading what is being exchanged” and that is confidently right. I’ve operated teams in China where we had a secret category 1 incident when it was discovered a couple of our devs had set up a VPN between a Chinese and a western service that didn’t go through the official Chinese-state controlled VPN services.

They absolutely do not want data they cannot read.

[–] refalo@programming.dev 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Do you have a source for that claim? And what state-controlled VPN services?

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

lol. I AM the source. DM me with your LinkedIn handle, I’ll connect with you to validate my identity and you can tell anybody else watching that the story is legit. I don’t want to spill too many details in public as I don’t want to involve my old company in it.

And in terms of “state controlled VPN” services, it’s not that the Chinese state runs honeypot VPNs for companies (though they most definitely do for their own citizens), but that to have a license to operate a cloud service in China, you have to enforce CSL and that means they get private companies, western too, to do their bidding. If you encrypt data, you’ll get a stern call (as we did).

[–] refalo@programming.dev -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

LOL so it's completely made up then, as I thought.

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 2 points 2 months ago

I’ve literally given you a way to feel more confident, all you have to take it. But no, you’d rather live in ignorance it seems.