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[–] prole@beehaw.org -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If you feign ignorance, and pretend that you don't know the difference between a belief held by billions of humans, and some corny, uncreative shit you just came up with off the top of your head, does that therefore make you an actual dumbass?

[–] maporita@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If it were a Bible or a Torah that was burned we wouldn't be having this conversation now because it wouldn't have even made the news. There is only one major religion that reacts violently to incidents like this. I think that's the point OP was making and it's a valid one.

[–] prole@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Way to completely miss (or ignore) the point I made.

But you're right, Christians have never committed violence in the name of their faith... Lol

That's not the same argument. Christians rarely, if ever, commit violence because of a public demonstration like burning a Bible or creating a likeness of Jesus. Christians do commit violence for other reasons though, but not for something that many would interpret as protected speech in western countries.

If you shout "FIRE!" in a crowded building (e.g. a theater), you could be held liable for the panic that could ensue. Likewise, intentionally doing things that you know would encourage violence either locally or elsewhere in the world as a direct result of the speech could be held to the same standard.

So what's being outlawed here isn't the burning of the Qu'ran, but the intentional incitement, which is very similar to the charges against former President Trump WRT the events of Jan. 6. If you did the same thing in a Christian context (e.g. by parading homoerotic images of Jesus outside a Baptist Church on Christmas or something), you could likely be charged. It's the intention here that's illegal, not the specific act.

[–] iridaniotter@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Actually there may very well have been news about a public Torah burning, considering the rise in anti-Semitism across the world has a lot of people worried. And a bible burning could easily go viral on Christian nationalist social media and news stations across America.