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[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I understand the difference between a laptop and PC thanks.

Now imagine if, and hear me out, one didn't bring school hardware home so some "creepy IT administrator" doesn't have access.

"Save the kids" arguments always fall flat on the face when the solution is as simple as leaving school devices at school.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They have to take it home for homework.

[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No, they don't. I am sure the majority have a computer or smart phone at home, and if not libraries exist for a reason.

[–] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

There are more people in poverty without a computer than you realize. Now write me a 5 paragraph essay with correct source citation on your smart phone.

[–] SadSadSatellite@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah it's a good thing homework doesn't exist.

[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Good thing for home computers, smart devices, and libraries eh?

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Good thing poor people have access to public libraries. I know from experience.

[–] irreticent@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There are "book deserts" where it can be difficult to visit a public library.

There are plenty of articles showing how libraries across the country are closing, usually in poor neighborhoods.

[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like a bigger problem than schools monitoring the use of devices issued to children.

Might want to get that sorted.

[–] irreticent@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The point is that your argument falls apart considering it kept being propped up by your assertion that kids can just use the library computers if they're too poor to have a computer at home.

But that doesn't matter; you're not actually here to debate in good faith.

"When our position on an issue is no longer based on curiosity and the desire for the truth, but a desire to win a debate. When someone reaches this stage of discourse, there's no need to try and persuade them."

[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The point is that your argument falls apart considering it kept being propped up by your assertion that kids can just use the library computers if they’re too poor to have a computer at home.

But that doesn’t matter; you’re not actually here to debate in good faith.

Debate Pervert:

“When our position on an issue is no longer based on curiosity and the desire for the truth, but a desire to win a debate. When someone reaches this stage of discourse, there’s no need to try and persuade them.”

That wasn't my argument, and is still a viable option. Libraries still exist.

My point and argument was: It is the schools decision on what happens with school hardware.

Have any thing to say to my point without being combative? Or do I add you to the pile of people not worth interacting with in the future?

[–] irreticent@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

That wasn't my argument, and is still a viable option. Libraries still exist.

That's a lie. You used that as an argument twice (that I saw, maybe more).

You: No one is forced to use a laptop. Libraries exist with free internet access and computer.

Also you: Good thing poor people have access to public libraries. I know from experience

My point and argument was: It is the schools decision on what happens with school hardware.

No, I didn't argue with you about that. That was an argument you were having with multiple other people. I just called you out on the fact that what you were claiming about libraries is not always true for everyone. I cited my source and proved you wrong. Yet you still seem to want to argue so you decided to change the subject of our debate.

Have any thing to say to my point without being combative?

I already said what I wanted to say. Unlike you I don't feel the need to argue about everything.

You have been antagonistic toward everyone in this post that you've interacted with. What makes you think anyone would have any respect for you enough to be polite? If you are combative then people will most likely be combative in their replies.

Or do I add you to the pile of people not worth interacting with in the future?

I find it somewhat sad that you keep saying that to people you get tired of debating. You say it a lot. Please feel free to add me to that list. I'll survive.

[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago

Many of the kids affected have no access to another device. The whole reasons schools supply hardware now is because it's needed to access their educational materials, and it's massively inequitable to only have students who have money able to develop their skills at home.