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[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 47 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

If I remember correctly, Homo sapiens sapiens was not only coetaneous with Mammoths, but we are widely considered to be one, if not the main cause of their extintion.

Also constructions like Gobekli tepe, with it's carvings and decorations, predate the extintion of Mammoths by something like 6000 years.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Well, that's a new word on me. Thought spell check corrected contemporary.

[–] Malgas@beehaw.org 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hell, there were still mammoths around when the pyramids at Giza were built.

Pygmy mammoths, on an island in northern Siberia, but still.

[–] Pips@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 months ago
[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Well, ice age ended and elephants still live.

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I... am so disappointed this didn't go where, for a split second, my brain thought it was going.

Homo sapiens sapiens was not only coetaneous with Mammoths, but we are widely considered to be one

Chickens are dinosaurs - and humans are mammoths!!

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

birds are the continuation of the theropod dinosaur lineage.

humans are the continuation of the early synapsid lineage also present at the time (which later gave rise to the early mammal progenitor).

when people say birds are dinosaurs they mean the lineage didn't branch as much as it did for humans, which I think is more survivorship bias than anything.

[–] flerp@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

People say birds are dinosaurs because every living thing is in every clade of it's ancestors which means they are dinosaurs. They're also a lot of other things from all of the other clades so they're not saying that birds are just dinosaurs, but that they are part of Dinosauria and every other clade of their ancestors and so too will all of their descendants be.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

Yes, one could say birds have skeletons in the same manner. I guess I'm just trying to understand what the opposing position before was the great revelation birds are dinosaurs was uttered. I'm perpetually confused by this expression.

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Birds are dinosaurs. Humans are not mammoths

[–] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 2 points 2 months ago

Don't tell me what I am and am not