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[–] Nomecks@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

No they won't, because you will soon be able to get a 1000km charge BEV and charge it at home. Hydrogen is a joke and this is like my tenth response to you on this subject which makes me think you're here astroturfing for big oil. Every day hydrogen becomes a worse and worse alternative for the true winner.

[–] Hypx@fedia.io 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You are imagining BEVs with ever larger and ever less cost effective batteries.

The problem is that the BEV was never intended to replace all cars. To even push this idea just means extremely expensive and non-environmental friendly batteries. You are just wasting your time on pushing greenwashing.

In reality, hydrogen is the only possible solution for most of transportation. Electricity should be reserved for directly electrified vehicles like trains or trolleybuses. Batteries powered vehicles only happened due to massive subsidies. It will revert back into a tiny niche or disappear entirely once those subsidies go away.

[–] Nomecks@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Apparently you missed the news of Samsung shipping their first solid state batteries that have 600 miles of range. The tech is still accelerating. You think we should instead build and maintain an entire hydrogen distribution network, similar to the gas stations of today, when I can have my BEV plug into my solar panels and give me free power at home? It's way easier to scale microdistribution and also less harmful than leaking unburned hydrogen.

[–] Hypx@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This sounds like more magic batteries from the future rhetoric. An endless loop of fantasy ideas that never materializes into something usable. Right off the bat, you suspect it will be expensive to be viable for BEVs: https://www.goldenstatemint.com/blog/samsungs-silver-solid-state-battery-technology-1-kilogram-of-silver-per-car/

Note that you can build an entire energy storage system using hydrogen. People are simply refusing to accept that this is effectively a type of battery. People have a misplaced loyalty to existing technology, even though they would've laughed at its limitations just 15 years ago.

[–] Nomecks@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

You need a hydrogen distribution system! Stations, pipelines, everything! Insane amounts of infrastructure!

[–] Hypx@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago

You don't technically need one. You can make hydrogen locally if you had too.

Also, a hydrogen infrastructure would be cheaper than a comparable electrical infrastructure. People have forgotten or never realized how complex the grid really is.